Originally Posted by Porkchop (Post 528256)

Same deal when I was trying to decided between the 696, 796, F800R, and Street Triple. I literally had to sit on them and decide. A great deal and finances ended up leading me in the right direction. But fundamentally, its bad for business.

I wish it was like the UK where you can basically ride everything as long as you have the right license level and full insurance.

Originally Posted by Cutty72 (Post 528258)

If we had stepped licensing like the UK, that could work.
Just think about all those new riders that want to be cool and ride a Duc, but have no idea how to handle it!
I get your complaints, and agree there should be a way to test ride bikes, but I get the dealership side of it too, lots of liability.

Originally Posted by dubbs (Post 528267)

Guess they figure people will still buy motorcycles without riding them. And they get the added benefit of not having to pay for expensive insurance.

Originally Posted by Cutty72 (Post 528268)

If you want a sportbike, or adventure... yes, you will buy it w/o test ride as that is the only option. :lol:

Only bikes I've gotten test rides on without the aid of a demo day are Triumph's, Buell's, and HD's,

Originally Posted by dubbs (Post 528240)

I'm not looking to do too much adventure riding with it. Only to cut through some dirt trails to get to other roads maybe. Mostly just for going through the twisties in comfort and commuting to work which is 150 miles round trip. Especially since out here in long island - it's illegal for me to go anywhere off-road except on someones private property that I have explicit permission before hand.

Originally Posted by azoomm (Post 528395)

For this you don't need Trip's definition of a "real" ADV bike.

Originally Posted by azoomm (Post 528395)

For this you don't need Trip's definition of a "real" ADV bike.

Originally Posted by dubbs (Post 528396)

Yeah.. didn't think so.. Just realized I put 150 miles.. meant 75 round trip.. little more sane..

I like everything about the bmw except the looks..

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 528400)

I am not trying to make you get the BMW, don't really care what you get. Get what you want because you have to be happy with your choice.

Just discussing bikes, because it doesn't happen here much anymore lol.