4 years and counting....I've got a couple things working "against" me though - my riding style is such that I tuck my knee in to the bike in a turn and I have REALLY short legs (25" inseam). This year I'm working on my body position more than ever so we'll see. It's not a goal though.

oh heavens, id be laughing my ass off!! I have a few friends who do the "penny pick up" going around several of the turns out there, and its hilarious to watch them do it!! One day I tell myself, one day...:wink:

After crashing because I wasnt riding properly positioned and had my body tucked toooo much, i have really focused on the position, like i said, not so much the knee, but the counter balancing position, i wont repeat my mistake twice!!

That said, racers years ago did not drag knee, it was unheard of until a few guys started doing (cant remember names off the top of my head) so while it looks cool, that doesnt mean its needed to be great!!

Kenny Roberts was the first to drag a knee, I don't remember who pioneered the "hanging off" style we use now.

That had to be a rush... and quite an event.

who was the first to drag elbow?

That I don't know, but if I had to guess I'd say Ben Spies.

That recent... wow.

Might have been Scott Russell, for some reason that name sticks in my head. I honestly don't know, the change to dragging knee had a lot to do with body position, before king kenny people really sat on the middle of the bike and didn't "hang off". Elbow dragging isn't a significant difference in body position and in some instances it's not a ton of lean either, it has a lot to do with how you hold your upper body and how long your arms are. I know I could drag elbow if I set out to do it, but I'm 6'4". All I would need to do is press my chest down on the tank, stick my elbow out and down, I can rest my elbow on my knee when I'm riding.

True... and most leathers don't have elbow sliders... :panic:

I was riding with a guy on a GSX-R1k at Barber who could do it, but he didn't because he said the first time he did it, the leather pulled his elbow and almost yanked his arm right off the bars.

I think Hopper was drag'n elbos before Spies... :idk:


but i don't think he was even the first