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Captain Morgan 05-10-2010 11:08 PM

The V-strom needs a different seat!
 
Put over 200 miles on the bike for work today and my ass is sore! I had ordered a new gel seat, but it didn't come in until after work today. However, Suzuki claims it's a quarter-inch lower than stock, but it's actually three-quarters of an inch taller. How they did that math is beyond me. I thought the Japanese were supposed to be good with math! Anyway, the gel seat won't work as it's just too tall, so I need to send it back. Looking at Corbins, but damn, they're pricey. Need to get something soon, not sure my ass can take sitting on that seat for 500 miles down to GA for the rally!

Rangerscott 05-10-2010 11:10 PM

Sargant

http://www.sargentcycle.com/suzwsvstrom.htm

smileyman 05-10-2010 11:21 PM

Ah ya wussy. You just been off so long your butts gotten tender! Just suck it up and ride!!

Trip 05-10-2010 11:43 PM

http://www.day-long.com/

You will have to send your seat pan in though, but it's the best seat out there hands down.

OneSickPsycho 05-11-2010 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Morgan (Post 371182)
Put over 200 miles on the bike for work today and my ass is sore! I had ordered a new gel seat, but it didn't come in until after work today. However, Suzuki claims it's a quarter-inch lower than stock, but it's actually three-quarters of an inch taller. How they did that math is beyond me. I thought the Japanese were supposed to be good with math! Anyway, the gel seat won't work as it's just too tall, so I need to send it back. Looking at Corbins, but damn, they're pricey. Need to get something soon, not sure my ass can take sitting on that seat for 500 miles down to GA for the rally!

Work on your butt callous...

Oh and the japs work off the metric system

Tsunami 05-11-2010 03:14 AM

i'm a big fan of sargent. I send my seat pans in though to get reshaped and then add better foam and it runs about $155

G-Rex 05-11-2010 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Morgan (Post 371182)
Need to get something soon, not sure my ass can take sitting on that seat for 500 miles down to GA for the rally!

I've got almost 60k on the Busa. I'll give you my secret.

Get a pair of gel filled bicycle shorts. That will help a LOT. For me, 500 miles is mileage before lunch. :lol

Seriously though, get a nice pair of shorts, pay $30 or $40 for them, and call it good. I actually sold the Corbin seat I had on my TLR because for me, the shorts worked better than the Corbin did.

Trip 05-11-2010 08:09 AM

If you need something soon and cheap, go to Wally world and get a comfort seat cover for a car and cut it down for your seat. The bead ones work well and some of the walmarts have a gel version that works great.

marko138 05-11-2010 08:10 AM

I've been looking for the Buell comfort seat as well.

Particle Man 05-11-2010 09:09 AM

Just do yourself a favor and stay the hell away from the OEM gel seats. They're okay in the beginning but as they get older I've found they end up hard as a rock.

I've heard really good things about Spencer's seats
( http://greatdaytoride.com/Home_Page.php )

I'm seriously considering it (though I need to get a new OEM seat because I stupidly got rid of mine in favor of the OEM gel seat from Suzuki) since it's considerably cheaper than the Russell and (from what I've heard) the results are pretty similar.

Trip 05-11-2010 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 371256)
I'm seriously considering it (though I need to get a new OEM seat because I stupidly got rid of mine in favor of the OEM gel seat from Suzuki) since it's considerably cheaper than the Russell and (from what I've heard) the results are pretty similar.

No they are not, Spencer is still very similar to stock shape and uses the stock cover, just redoes the foam/support. Companies like Russell and Mayer rebuild the entire structure to support you much better.

There really isn't a substitute for the ugly patented wing design of the original mayer/russell seat.

Rider 05-11-2010 09:22 AM

Air Hawk

Trip 05-11-2010 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rider (Post 371261)

you might as well invest in a new seat at $100

Particle Man 05-11-2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 371260)
No they are not, Spencer is still very similar to stock shape and uses the stock cover, just redoes the foam/support. Companies like Russell and Mayer rebuild the entire structure to support you much better.

There really isn't a substitute for the ugly patented wing design of the original mayer/russell seat.

By "results" I meant the lack of numb-ass syndrome ;)

Rider 05-11-2010 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 371265)
you might as well invest in a new seat at $100

The advantage is, you can use it on multiple bikes. And for the good air hawk it's $150.

Trip 05-11-2010 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rider (Post 371273)
The advantage is, you can use it on multiple bikes. And for the good air hawk it's $150.

Custom seats are pretty easy to sell for little loss. Especially if you wait for the annual group buy they hold. I got my Russell really cheap.

Amber Lamps 05-11-2010 09:55 AM

I'm amazed that 3/4 of an inch makes three bike unrideable... I've had very good luck with Suzuki gel seats and have had them on my last for bikes. in fact the one on my current bike is almost four years old and no problem.

karl_1052 05-11-2010 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 371256)
Just do yourself a favor and stay the hell away from the OEM gel seats. They're okay in the beginning but as they get older I've found they end up hard as a rock.

I've heard really good things about Spencer's seats
( http://greatdaytoride.com/Home_Page.php )

I'm seriously considering it (though I need to get a new OEM seat because I stupidly got rid of mine in favor of the OEM gel seat from Suzuki) since it's considerably cheaper than the Russell and (from what I've heard) the results are pretty similar.

Did you leave yours on the bike during winter storage?

I plan to put the stocker on for storage(I just got mine, and it is so much better than stock).

the chi 05-11-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by smileyman (Post 371184)
Ah ya wussy. You just been off so long your butts gotten tender! Just suck it up and ride!!

This! :lol: Suck it up buttercup, your butt will toughen up!

Captain Morgan 05-11-2010 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangerscott (Post 371183)

Checked them out. They say their seat is 3/4" taller than stock for 650, but they do mention it's narrower, which helps make it feel shorter. Not sure I want to spend $400 on a seat to find out if it will work or not.

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 371186)
http://www.day-long.com/

You will have to send your seat pan in though, but it's the best seat out there hands down.

Will look into it.

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho (Post 371193)
Work on your butt callous...

Oh and the japs work off the metric system

The ad says 6mm (approx 1/4") :lol

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Originally Posted by G-Rex (Post 371220)
I've got almost 60k on the Busa. I'll give you my secret.

Get a pair of gel filled bicycle shorts. That will help a LOT. For me, 500 miles is mileage before lunch. :lol

Seriously though, get a nice pair of shorts, pay $30 or $40 for them, and call it good. I actually sold the Corbin seat I had on my TLR because for me, the shorts worked better than the Corbin did.

Will have to look into this option, as it's a nice cheap alternative. And I was only able to put in 200 miles for the day because I was working. Riding from place to place, handling business, then moving on. But at least I get paid to do that. Only go out once a week, for work, though. Would be better if I could do that every day!

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 371232)
If you need something soon and cheap, go to Wally world and get a comfort seat cover for a car and cut it down for your seat. The bead ones work well and some of the walmarts have a gel version that works great.

Thanks, will check it out, as well as the gel bicycle shorts.

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Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 371256)
Just do yourself a favor and stay the hell away from the OEM gel seats. They're okay in the beginning but as they get older I've found they end up hard as a rock.

I've heard really good things about Spencer's seats
( http://greatdaytoride.com/Home_Page.php )

I'm seriously considering it (though I need to get a new OEM seat because I stupidly got rid of mine in favor of the OEM gel seat from Suzuki) since it's considerably cheaper than the Russell and (from what I've heard) the results are pretty similar.

OEM gel is what I had ordered and it's not as advertised. Sending it back today.

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Originally Posted by Rider (Post 371261)

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Originally Posted by Trip (Post 371265)
you might as well invest in a new seat at $100

Will look into it.

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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps (Post 371288)
I'm amazed that 3/4 of an inch makes three bike unrideable... I've had very good luck with Suzuki gel seats and have had them on my last for bikes. in fact the one on my current bike is almost four years old and no problem.

Yeah, me too. It's not completely unrideable, it just that I can ONLY get one foot on the ground with the gel seat vs. the stock seat. With stock, I can get one foot flat with tip toes of other foot on ground. With gel, it's either VERY tip toe of both feet, or one foot flat with bike leaning uncomfortably to that side, and other foot nowhere near the ground. Very uncomfortable to try and balance the bike that way, especially with as much stop and go as I do when making field calls for work.

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Originally Posted by smileyman (Post 371184)
Ah ya wussy. You just been off so long your butts gotten tender! Just suck it up and ride!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chi (Post 371348)
This! :lol: Suck it up buttercup, your butt will toughen up!

:lol: I hope it does soon!!

Cutty72 05-11-2010 01:00 PM

I think ebbs had one of those air hawk things, back when he had his ZZR, not sure if he still does or not.

Amber Lamps 05-11-2010 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Chi (Post 371348)
This! :lol: Suck it up buttercup, your butt will toughen up!

Maybe he can get 101 lifts to put some miles on two up...he seems to enjoy riding behind little guys. Having that big bastid ride behind him will tighten his ass up for sure!


Oh wait, you said "toughen up", my bad. Never mind...:lol:


BTW I have a pair of biker shorts and they work wonders, GRex is right!

Amber Lamps 05-11-2010 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cutty72 (Post 371412)
I think ebbs had one of those air hawk things, back when he had his ZZR, not sure if he still does or not.

I don't think it will work since it's over 1 mm thick and shorty here won't be able to touch the ground!:wink:

Avery, maybe we should lower your bike slightly, seriously.

Particle Man 05-11-2010 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 371290)
Did you leave yours on the bike during winter storage?

I plan to put the stocker on for storage(I just got mine, and it is so much better than stock).

yeah - I'm wondering if that's it. :(

Cutty72 05-11-2010 01:12 PM

Or get him leg extensions!

Amber Lamps 05-11-2010 01:18 PM

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Or get him leg extensions!

http://www.walktallshoes.com/

dReWpY 05-11-2010 03:46 PM

i used the airhawk and it worked great

Captain Morgan 05-11-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps (Post 371415)
I don't think it will work since it's over 1 mm thick and shorty here won't be able to touch the ground!:wink:

Avery, maybe we should lower your bike slightly, seriously.

Hey, jackass, do the math. :lol: If 6mm is 1/4", then 3/4" would be 18mm. I was hoping to lower the seat 1/4", but instead, the gel seat raised it 3/4". but yeah, looks like that airhawk would raise the seating position, which I don't want.

But seriously, I've been thinking about lowering the bike a little. Don't want to unless absolutely necessary, though. Found some lowering links that claim to only lower the bike 5/8" which is probably the most I'd want to go.

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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps (Post 371423)

:lol Too fuckin funny!!

Tsunami 05-11-2010 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Morgan (Post 371554)

But seriously, I've been thinking about lowering the bike a little. Don't want to unless absolutely necessary, though. Found some lowering links that claim to only lower the bike 5/8" which is probably the most I'd want to go.

Why not just shave the seat down?

Captain Morgan 05-11-2010 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Rex (Post 371220)
Get a pair of gel filled bicycle shorts. That will help a LOT.

Was looking online since there isn't a decent sporting goods store in this town...which type are better?

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/pr...ductId=3071450

or

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/pr...ductId=3998044

Particle Man 05-11-2010 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Morgan (Post 371559)
Was looking online since there isn't a decent sporting goods store in this town...which type are better?

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/pr...ductId=3071450

or

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/pr...ductId=3998044

I have the pair in the first link and they work pretty well IMO but the second ones look damn comfortable - please tell me someone's tried these

Rangerscott 05-11-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps (Post 371423)

I wear my slip on boots big with a gel insert and arch insert. Works great.

Amber Lamps 05-11-2010 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Morgan (Post 371554)
Hey, jackass, do the math. :lol: If 6mm is 1/4", then 3/4" would be 18mm. I was hoping to lower the seat 1/4", but instead, the gel seat raised it 3/4". but yeah, looks like that airhawk would raise the seating position, which I don't want.

But seriously, I've been thinking about lowering the bike a little. Don't want to unless absolutely necessary, though. Found some lowering links that claim to only lower the bike 5/8" which is probably the most I'd want to go.



:lol Too fuckin funny!!

Well, let me know and I'll bring tools to the rally. Also, my buddy is Soupy from Soupy's Performance-we once Eiffel Towered a girl- and I'm sure that I can get you a good deal. First we should determine if there is a ride height adjustment on that bike, maybe we can get 1/2'' without using parts. Some stock links even come with two sets of holes...

Gas Man 05-11-2010 10:59 PM

I got a seat guy that could maybe do somin to your stock seat... trim the insides where yout leg touches when they are down... helps with reach. Also do a gel or poly insert where you sit. Whatever... www.badassbikeseats.com Tell him I sent ya... give him a call. He has quick turn around time. Of coarse he can do all kinds of cosmetics to it, but you could also keep it simple which will keep the price down.

Captain Morgan 05-11-2010 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps (Post 371626)
Well, let me know and I'll bring tools to the rally. Also, my buddy is Soupy from Soupy's Performance-we once Eiffel Towered a girl- and I'm sure that I can get you a good deal. First we should determine if there is a ride height adjustment on that bike, maybe we can get 1/2'' without using parts. Some stock links even come with two sets of holes...

Love the Eiffel tower comment in the middle of all that. Wouldn't know anything about those. :angel:

Not sure if the stock links allow any adjustment or not, but I'll see what I can find out.

derf 05-12-2010 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps (Post 371626)
Also, my buddy is Soupy from Soupy's Performance-we once Eiffel Towered a girl- and I'm sure that I can get you a good deal.

WTF where did that random comment come from? Was she at least hot?

Amber Lamps 05-12-2010 12:50 AM

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WTF where did that random comment come from? Was she at least hot?

Just referencing how good of friends we were, that's all....

you judge.

derf 05-12-2010 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps (Post 371657)
Just referencing how good of friends we were, that's all....

you judge.


You my friend, are my HEro

Amber Lamps 05-12-2010 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by derf (Post 371658)
You my friend, are my HEro

Why? This girl was a slut. She once got it on at a party with another girl in a room full of people. Our first "date" was me, her and this other girl. Very naughty to say the least.

Rangerscott 05-12-2010 01:00 AM

2. Eiffel Tower 837 up, 186 down


a sexual act that requires 3 people. 2 guys, one chick, and 1 other unfortunate soul. The chick bends over and one guy takes her from behind, while the other puts it in her mouth and then the two guys give a high ten, giving the illusion of the Eiffel Tower. The unfortunate soul is there to take the picture. No one will believe you if you don't have the proof.
Chad and Bob pulled off the Eiffel Tower with Beckie, while Trey, the unfortunate soul, took the picture.


http://image26.webshots.com/27/0/4/3...3yeJxPR_ph.jpg

Amber Lamps 05-12-2010 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rangerscott (Post 371663)
2. Eiffel Tower 837 up, 186 down


a sexual act that requires 3 people. 2 guys, one chick, and 1 other unfortunate soul. The chick bends over and one guy takes her from behind, while the other puts it in her mouth and then the two guys give a high ten, giving the illusion of the Eiffel Tower. The unfortunate soul is there to take the picture. No one will believe you if you don't have the proof.
Chad and Bob pulled off the Eiffel Tower with Beckie, while Trey, the unfortunate soul, took the picture.


http://image26.webshots.com/27/0/4/3...3yeJxPR_ph.jpg

If you get the girl to go for the three way- not as hard as it may sound, the rest is child's play. I actually had pics of at least one ET but they were lost to a hard drive crash. BTW have you ever heard of a tripod?:lol: I have to admit that I've only pulled off the "high ten" with this girl, all others were high fives at best.:whistle:

derf 05-12-2010 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rangerscott (Post 371663)
2. Eiffel Tower 837 up, 186 down


a sexual act that requires 3 people. 2 guys, one chick, and 1 other unfortunate soul. The chick bends over and one guy takes her from behind, while the other puts it in her mouth and then the two guys give a high ten, giving the illusion of the Eiffel Tower. The unfortunate soul is there to take the picture. No one will believe you if you don't have the proof.
Chad and Bob pulled off the Eiffel Tower with Beckie, while Trey, the unfortunate soul, took the picture.


http://image26.webshots.com/27/0/4/3...3yeJxPR_ph.jpg

Awesome description, never heard the part about the 4th person

marko138 05-12-2010 08:11 AM

I guarantee GM will have enough tools on that damn Harley to lower a bike.

Particle Man 05-12-2010 10:55 AM

wow, talk about a thread derailment :lol:

Rider 05-12-2010 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps (Post 371626)
Well, let me know and I'll bring tools to the rally. Also, my buddy is Soupy from Soupy's Performance-we once Eiffel Towered a girl- and I'm sure that I can get you a good deal. First we should determine if there is a ride height adjustment on that bike, maybe we can get 1/2'' without using parts. Some stock links even come with two sets of holes...

I've met Soupy. Nice turbo Busa he got.

Captain Morgan 05-12-2010 12:11 PM

Seems like people are thinking I want the bike lowered now. I don't feel like the bike needs to be lowered with the stock seat. But if I were to put on a different seat that is higher, it will need to be lowered. I'm trying to avoid going that route, though.

the chi 05-12-2010 01:27 PM

Seeing as I hate spending money on anything, why dont you give it a little while before to see how you adjust before forking the cash out on a seat if you dont absolutely need it. You may find after some more miles that your butt has adjusted and you dont mind the height.

Rider 05-12-2010 01:42 PM

You could shave down the stock seat and put in some gel padding to bring the seat height back to stock height then recover with either the stock cover or a custom cover.

goof2 05-12-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rider (Post 371848)
I've met Soupy. Nice turbo Busa he got.

I hope you didn't shake his hand.:tremble::didntdo:

Gas Man 05-12-2010 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by marko138 (Post 371712)
I guarantee GM will have enough tools on that damn Harley to lower a bike.

It could be possible!

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Originally Posted by Rider (Post 371956)
You could shave down the stock seat and put in some gel padding to bring the seat height back to stock height then recover with either the stock cover or a custom cover.

That is what I tried to say. Scott at badassbikeseats can do that.

Particle Man 05-12-2010 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by goof2 (Post 371959)
I hope you didn't shake his hand.:tremble::didntdo:

:lmao:

Amber Lamps 05-12-2010 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by goof2 (Post 371959)
I hope you didn't shake his hand.:tremble::didntdo:

Yea I could tell stories! That guy used to get more ass than a toilet seat!

Rider 05-13-2010 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps (Post 372055)
Yea I could tell stories! That guy used to get more ass than a toilet seat!

I can totally see that. He has that kind of swagger.

Captain Morgan 05-18-2010 12:49 PM

Stopped at a local bike shop today. They had 2 pair of padded bike shorts hanging on a rack, both same brand, at least one that would fit me. They were $50, but it was foam padding, not gel. Guy asked if he could help. Asked if they had gel.

"Nope, those are better."

"Ok, what makes them better?"

Several seconds of silence, then, "Gel don't work so good and it's heavy."

"Ok, I'm getting these for extra padding for riding my motorcycle. A buddy told me that gel filled bike shorts made his rides much better and I should try it."

Silence.

"I'll think about it and do some research."

Silence.

I walked out.

Have field calls up in Indy tomorrow, will stop by someplace where I can actually get some customer service.

racedoll 05-26-2010 08:43 PM

Why don't you add a little meat to that arse instead of buying gel shorts and seats? :lol:


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