Come on in and confess please
 

How many of you have shifted into 7th gear on your bike?:spank:

Let me confess 1st:zowned:

Sorry dude, but I'm perfect

Never...

Yeup.

I do it every once in a while wen Im not paying attention to my shifts. Sometimes I think Im in 6th and its just to check, most of the time I just forget how many times Ive shifted.

7th and sometimes 8th :scratch:

guilty

I hate being new to shit.. I don't understand. I thought you couldn't go higher than whatever speed bike you have? You can still shift? Would you have to shift that many times down too?

better than that have you ever tried to get to -1st gear?

No, when you go to shift and youre already in 6th, it doesnt go anywhere.

Cant say that Ive tried that yet.

Ah, I see. I haven't been that high in the gears yet. I did try to get to -1st a couple times though.. heh

How many gears does the 750 have?

LOL and yep

Considering two of my bikes don't have 6th gear and one of those doesn't have a 5th or 4th gear. I have trouble just getting to 6th most of the time.

ok, 6th for you :lol:

:whistle:

I haven't needed to get out of 4th gear since I bought the 1098.. even into triple digits... :whistle:

But before that, yeah.. especially on my old F2. :lol:

I have, but let's face it..

If you think you *need* a 7th gear on a Hayabusa, well, you're just a greedy bastard. :lol:

The line starts behind me. :D

It has 5.

you get 100 in first? stock gearing my 10 can.

In theory yes, but I haven't tested it.

i've hit 103 in first on my 1000 a couple of times just to do it, but i believe a stock 1098(not "S" or "R") tops out in 6th at about 165 according to motorcyclist issue "0-180 all out,fast as you can " damn good issue right there,

:iagree: I do it all the time just to make sure I am all the way up.

Plus...I am SOOOOO bad at remembering what gear I am in. :whistle:

Once or twice :idk: Mostly puttering around trying to keep the revs low and not thinking.

theory isn't reliable in the real world. ;)

ask any EE if you can jump a bike with a car battery, in theory it works, in practice I have seen electronics fried.

yeah, I've hit (indicated) well over 100 but by the time you take into account the 10-15% odo error you're at around 100


ok, how about 1/4 mile trap speeds? I'm not the best at it, haven't done it much but I've hit 140

See I have one of those Nifty Little Gear Indicators...

So I dont do it

Whew, glad I'm in good company!

Well unlike you flatland folks in Kansas and Oklahoma, I don't have much room to find out. Our roads actually turn here. And we like it. redflip

I ride a Ninja 250... I don't think I've ever been anywhere when I haven't tried for 7th... :lol:

yeah, yeah, yeah, I used to live in SW MO. I know what twisties are. ;)

i make sure im in 6th all the time . stock gearing my ten hit 98 right before limiter
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Already got both of those covered! Sorta feels like when you are about to pick up a can of beer that you thought was full and it turns out to be empty. You sorta feel cheated and stupid at the same time like the entire room saw that and knows what just happened. Yep, thats how it feels while riding.

Try riding a 4 speed Shadow. I just wanted 5th, for crying out loud. :)

And I was gonna complain about only having 5 gears on my old 550K. I constantly kept hunting for 6'th on that old warhorse. my CBR I kept hunting for 7'th from time to time.

I've done it dozens of times with no ill effects. As long as the car isn't running, it's not a big deal. :idk:

I've looked for 7th on the bikes that have a 6th. The GSXR only has 5 gears, and I've never gone looking for 6th. This island just doesn't have that kind of running room anywhere.

I've gone for -1st a couple of times too. That's not too bad. What does suck is trying to downshift to 2nd for an upcoming corner, only to find out that you were already in second, slamming into 1st and locking th rear wheel. That's definite pucker factor. :panic:

Busted.. :lol: BUT! I can honestly say, I think I've had it in fifth maybe a handful of times. Hell I barely see 4th unless I'm on the hwy.

:panic: You haven't tested it???

I've done it when I left my bike in "park" and drained the battery. It did work. Nothing was fried, but sparks did come off of my bike...

:lol:

The GSXR750 had a gear indicator so I never tried to up shift once in 6th gear
The Kawi was geared funny so I did try to reach for another gear at times.

I'm a girl... I don't have the genetic predisposition to need to prove my penis size. :lol:

I'm a terrible -1th and 7th gear shifter. I need a gear indicator.

Yep...all the time. Though it's 6th now.

Then either it was done wrong, or there was something wrong with the bike. 12volts is 12volts.

And I tried for 7th a couple times yesterday.......

Tard only has up to 5th...i have looked for 6th though :p

Well of course just to make sure. I watch my mirrors alot to make sure the wife is still there and ok on her R6 and sometimes have to think "am I in 5th or 6th" .

Now when I'm not watching for her and getting on it then no...I know what gear I'm in. :rockout:

it's just that EE's will say that it can never happen, what they don't take into account is a weak part and that usually ends up being the igniter/cdi. it's up to you if you want to take the chance.

I've never actually SUCEEDED if that's what you mean.

I've tried many many times

:lol:

Guilty on all counts. I've also looked for 6th in the cage! :D

I have 6th in *my* cage. I've thought about it a time or two in Carolina's car, but where my 6th is, would be her reverse. That would be ugly. :lol:

Tracy nearly did that in my car... except if he had "found" it, the transmission probably would have eaten itself since he would have thrown it into reverse. :lol:

ETA: JINX!! :lol:

That being the case a MC battery would cause the same damage. And if it caused the cdi to burn up, it was bad before you hooked the battery up.

I had a 69 440 6 pack dodge coronet rt with an automatic. And I had it wot and accidentally shifted it from 1st to reverse at about 50 mph, and it went into reverse. I don't remember it breaking anything, but the back of the car jump up and down a few times before I got it back into drive....

guilty of looking for seventh... :whistle:

I did this exact same thing back in high school with the '68 Impala 327 I had. I seem to remember I was trying to show off, and, well, didn't. :lol:

available amperage from a motorcycle battery is much lower than the smallest car battery.

just because you have never seen it doesn't mean it can't or hasn't happened.

The RC has a tach, and six gears, but I have yet to try for 7th. Hell I rarely ever used 6th.

The VTX on the other had, was a different story. No tach just a spedometer, and 60 in 4th felt very much like 75 in 5th. On that big beast, I've tried for 6th, hell I've even tried for 7th on that pig.

You should go read the cold cranking amp chart on this page. At 10 volts your motorcycle battery is producing 100 amps, 100 amps is enough to fry all the electronics on a bike except the starting circuit.

Probably the reason the battery's dead in the first place is the electronics are shorted.

Yeah it would! :panic:

'71 camaro with a 350 and power glide trans. Here.

Must be the fact that I work as an elec designer that makes me think it would work, after all 12 volt system is the same. That or the fact I've done it quite a few times.
If your elec system is faulty it will have issues but it's not "caused" by the cage system.

Orig question: Hey you always want more right? Seemed like a good excuse.

Hello, I am a practicing EE here to tell you that you are wrong. Starting a motorcycle from a car battery is fine as long as the car isn't started.

Correct, the charging system for a car is much more powerful and can fry electronics. It's not the battery that will damage the motorcycle, it's the charging system from the car.

12 volts is 12 volts as stated earlier in this thread, what's different about the car battery is it's capable of providing for a much larger load. Capability doesn't not mean that it will distribute it's full load to what it's connected to. Take your wall plug for example, it's capable of much more than the normal small electronics we plug into it, but it doesn't destroy them...

seems you are not the only one either.

most mechanics don't know what they are talking about but expected to know how to fix it after the customer screws it up.

Dude, seriously shut the fuck up and go back to flipping burgers.

Unlike that mechanic, a failure in my position means I compromise the ability of a nuclear plant to shutdown in the event of accidents not a pissed off customer. I deal with safety related power distribution systems on a daily basis. This is real world, not theory.

Im with ya...tho honestly, I rarely ever pay attention to the actual # of the gear I am in, I go based on feel. Kinda the same with my car, even tho I can see it, if it doesnt "feel" right (boggy or screaming uncomfortably) I shift. When I do track days I have no gauges at all, and do everything based on instinct and feel, I just transition back and forth. Empathic Mechanic. :lol:

The next time a power plant blows up, Im blaming you.



:lol:

:lol:

If a nuke plant goes up, I don't think I would want to work at one anymore anyway.

If your nuke plant goes up.. I don't think you'll really be in a position to be worried about working at another one anyway. :lol:

Nah, I know where to hide where I could survive. It's you outside the fence people that have to worry.

Oh well, I'd rather be closer to the blast area than just on the edge of it. At least I'd go out in a (albeit brief) blaze of glory. :rockwoot:

That's exactly when I usually do it as well....

You're wasting your time. I tried to explain how a closed basic hydraulic system works, I was basically told I was an idiot.

And much like you, if my hydraulic knowledge isn't up to snuff, people die. Considering I'm an engineer on a warship.

What do we know? We don't "RACE" motorcycles..

My first thought was "damn, i'll kinda miss him tho". Bwahahahaha...

In his defense, I dont think he was the one who made that comment. I beleive that one can be attributed to Tigger. Just saying.

:lol: nice

I thought I wanted a gear indicator...but now I don't think I do.

Currently my speedometer is broken, my turn signal light does not work, and I have no gear indicator...but I also rarely look down while riding which is good. :beers:

I wish I didn't. I'm forever looking down to check the speedo. Everytime I see a speed limit sign, I've caught myself glancing down. I've often thought of taking the damn thing off the bike. :lol:

I used to try and read my speedometer...but it takes me a good 5-6 seconds to figure out what it says which I figured was not too safe! :panic: I have trained myself to not look at it...which hopefully will not bite me in the ass if/when I get a new bike. :lol:

"We follow orders, son. We follow orders or people die. It's that simple. Are we clear?"

Well, let's just say if the car is running, it has more potential to damage the electronics or other things on the bike, but maybe I'm over simplifying here, (I'm a practicing EE to, but if I screw up, only big transformers just burn up not whole nuke plants). Batteries do not "push" current, the components "pull" current.....you know what, nevermind, just not worth it.

I've tried for 6th a few times on the ZR1100. It could use it but it's not there :scratch:

It's really confusing jumping back on the triples. Instead of 1 down and 4 up, it's neutral on the bottom and all 5 up. :dthumb:

Bad things happen. My friend Kurt is a part owner of Phoenix Performance. They build race cars, mostly corvettes.

A few years back they were running the 24 Hours of Daytona and the corvette driver wound out 6th gear and went for 7th. The company that rebuilt the transmission didn't install the reverse lockout and the driver was able to shift into reverse.

Lets just say when you let the clutch back out in reverse doing well in excess of 150 mph ( probably closer to 170 ) you don't stay in control of the vehicle but instead spin wildly until you stop.

I had to jump my bike many times... If only there was a device to keep your battery charged while it sits...

Anyways car on... Car off... No issues for me...

yes, you work with materials that are manufactured to a much higher degree than the stuff they put on a motorcycle.

I am that mechanic, I haven't flipped burgers since working in the mid 80's.

Exactly where did you go to train as a mechanic or are you a backyard mechanic?

A battery is a battery is a battery. Here's a little experiment you can try at home with something cheap.

Find something that is powered with one small battery that requires little to no amperage, measure your voltage and current. Now go out and get like 30 or 40 of those batteries and hook them all up in parallel and see what you voltage you have. Now hook that parallel bank of batteries up to your device and measure voltage and current again.

Ahem...

http://www.bmwdiy.info/battery-maint...y-maint-02.jpg

The FBI would call that a clue...

:D

if you reread what I said, you are taking the chance that there is no weak part in your system. I have seen it happen with my own eyes. I have worked with mechanics that have 20+ years in the field that can back me up.


yes I do understand that with a perfect system that you are correct but every time you hook it up to a car battery you are taking the chance that the manufacturer that built those parts the cheapest didn't put one of the parts with a lower tolerance in your bike. giving out advice that it can not or will not damage the bike can be incorrect. that is all I am saying. it can damage a weak link in the system.

:na:

What you don't seem to get is that 12v's is 12v's. The current draw from 12v's is based on the load resistance.
I=E/R (go read up on Ohm's law)

Also Automotive grade components are better than commercial grade components, because of the expected operating temperature range.

Alright now kids, Ohm's law has just been quoted, this thread has officially been hijacked...let's close it down before fatkid gets pissed and starts Trunking EVERYONE!!!!

This thread is beyond gay.


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Ohm's law ftmfw

yes, because the few mechanics you "work with" overrides two fully qualified working electrical engineers that have both spent time in the field and not just at a desk. Hell we are first person sources with the technical and professional background to answer such questions. To your, oh my mechanic buddy says so. Find me one credible source because so far you have none. Fatburg and I can testify in court as subject matter experts in electrical distribution systems, I don't think the same can be said for you buddies.

If a part fails from a car battery, it wasn't designed to handle 12v or damaged before you put the car battery on. Electrical devices don't just up and start drawing tons of amps unless you have a short or damaged electrical system in either case the motorcycle battery would cause the same outcome. If anyone shouldn't be giving out advice on this matter, it's you who has no working knowledge of electrical systems except from a craft point of view. Now if you want to say how to change a wire or install a relay, that's different. Talking about how you understand the concepts of electron flow is not in your range of knowledge.

huh huh, Trip said "flow"

Did it more often on my old bike, but I've done it, I'll admit. :lol:

:rofl: WTF happened? I just skimmed over page 1, all was well and good, then I get back here to the last page and WHOAH... shit all over the place!

Everyone should just Shut the Fuck up and Blow me...


I've jumped my Bike with a Car...Whoopty Fucking do...If your a moron and let that shit sit on there for more than you have to then yeah youll probably fry shit...Connect the Cables hit the starter and boom it starts it is a quick action. Your not writing a fuckign book while you jump your shit.

Blah Blah Blah...This thread is about Shifting when your already in your High gear not Jumping a Bike with a car...

Christ.

never. i never rode that hard on my ninja 500. and on my gsxr, never happens cuz it has a gear indicator.

I jumped my riding mower with my F-250 and it sounded like a jet engine spooling up. :lol:

Oh, I only have 5 gears :(