new VFR1200?
 

Sweet deal...but good lord, could they make it any uglier?

I wonder if it will be eligible for the Daytona Sport Bike class? :lol: Also, how'd you like that guy's riding out fit? Boots, gloves, chinos and a sweatshirt!:lol:

When I can see and touch a new VFR (if there will ever be one...) THEN I will believe it..

Unfortunately, it's a Honda which means yes, they can and will.

It looks like they are hiring the drop-outs from the "I wanna work for BMW but my sketches are too ugly even for them" school of design.

:vs:

I have to agree that bike is ugly. Honda, :wtfru:

Hoplessly uninspiring. better be a real performer...ewwwww!

Maybe they hired the guy that designed the Versys...:idk:

well looks like they were somewhat faithful to the concept. still disgusting, looks like three different bikes smashed together (nose, tank, and tail DO not match) and at least kawi gets a reprieve for not having the ugliest stock exhaust anymore :lmao:

You got that right. That exhaust is HIDEOUS.

There have been 15,000 gazillion reports of the 'new VFR' going on for a veryyyy looonnnggg time now... I won't believe it until I see one sitting in a showroom.

They just need to keep the displacement, drop two cylinders, make it a 90° configuration, and turn it into a real sportbike. Hello new RC51. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed. But a revamped VFR is still pretty cool, even if it is hideous.

Normally, I'm into "interesting" looking bikes.

Not so much this time...

Well depending on how they do it ti could be Honda's entry into the Hyperbike Class meaning like the Hayabusa and the ZX14 most of us will only see the tail light getting smaller anyway. But as previously noted I will believe it when it is in a local showroom.

Interesting. Instead of going with the oft rumored VFR update, you chose the now mythical Super Blackbird route. I believe at last report, the Super Blackbird was going to be a 1600cc monster engine that ran on Unicorn farts and ground up Fairy Wings. I just hope some of that technology trickles down to the VFR.

Rumor has it that they'll be implementing Fairy Wing technology in the new VFR.

With Obama moving the dates of the new emission standards up, the Unicorn flatulation (uni-flat) engines have been scrapped. Honda had too much R&D invested in the old design to start over with the newly required low-sulfur farts.

:lol

right, but unlike those previous threads with piss poor shitballz photochumps, this report comes with pictures of a real mule in action.

i really dont see this happening unless #1 honda feels 200cc is enough of an advantage to drop the blade as its production spec racer (pretty dominant in bsb and steadily improving in sbk) and #2 they decide to return to wsbk with a full factory backed effort. not really likely, but hell maybe they'll want to save some skrilla and drop motogp :skep:

that was my first thought when i saw the reported displacement

well he kinda has a point, i mean its soooo fucking ugly it almost HAS to be a busa fighter :lmao:

you win reps! :boobs:

I can't do it from work but Dave I have seen upteen pictures (on the net of course) of the 'New VFR.' The last picture was the VFR as a SCOOTER!! :lmao: They are all accompanied by articles and an attempt is made to make them look legitimate. The VFR folks usually post it up and then we all pick it to death.

That's why I keep saying I'm going to have to see one...

Yikes, hot weather testing a bike in 110 degree heat (in the shade) can't be fun, no matter the bike (the last pic in the set shows a thermometer).

The headlight is odd..... but other than that its really clean looking. i'd rock it.

havent there been rumors of a 1200vfr for 6-7 years now, lol, itd be about time.

That is hideous though.

Technology 1
Looks 0

Its a good commuter bike.

I still haven't quite gotten why they don't spoon that V5 motor into a VFR-like chassis and sell it. Would be a cool bike and bring the VFR back to it's racing roots.

Probably because Honda is the worst company in the world for following consumer demands in the world. Honda does what Honda wants to do, even though it usually doesnt make sense.

If Honda would build a V5 or an v-twin high end sportbike, I would probably get rid of the Harley next year for it. I'd have to ride a v5 first, but a V-twin... mmm... I had a cbr1000rr, and that thing was so smooth it wasn't fun to ride. Power was unbelievable, but it didn't have that 'I'm gonna throw you 300 feet through this turn if you fuck up' feeling that I loved on the RC51. I fight with my Harley at 90mph more than I ever did with cbr at 150mph :lol:

I dunno, just didn't like the feel of the I4. Sure I was a little faster with it, but it wasnt as satisfying to ride.

I can understand that, my V-Max was the "funnest" most "interesting" bike I've ever owned.

Im with you. Ive been waiting to see a new VFR but this is the first time I remember seeing actual test photos of it.

It looks a little better here: http://hellforleathermagazine.com/ga...-vfr1200-4.php

You think so?

The more I see it the more hideous I think it looks.

still ugly...

Call me crazy but I wont get it because of the shaft drive.

Werd. I'm no fan of shaft drive either.

They gave it the shaft. Hardy har har.

I like the shaft especially if the bike is marketed as a sport tourer, just the lack of maintenance required for the shaft is what would sell me. However, if you are looking at it as a pure sports bike then no, shaft is not as efficient or adaptable (different sprocket sizes) as a chain drive

dont you have to get it looked at every year?

I'm not really an expert but off the top of my head I would say change the shaft oil at 1000 miles (when the bike is new), then every 12k miles after that. You also will prolly have to clean and grease the splines every time you remove the rear wheel, and keep your eye out for any leaks from the shaft housing. The housing seals should be changed when they leak, which is a failrly painless task (but still quite involved).

Exactly. Way more work and way more expensive to fix if it breaks. Chain and sprockets have worked fine for decades.

Any more updates about this new VFR?

Eh, I disagree. Chains are definitely easier to change when you need to but a shaft drive should last for the life of the bike. Where I live right now I dont have a garage, it rains a lot, and we also get a lot of salt air from the ocean. As a result, my chain rusts pretty quickly and it also tends to get kinks in it if is isnt cleaned weekly. A shaft drive would be much less of a headache.

new pics

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...FR-1200-V4.jpg

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...r1000%2009.htm

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/pic...VFR%201000.jpg

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/pic...01000%2010.jpg

:dribble:

I like it. I want to see it in person before I make a final judgement. I don't like the "closed" side fairings like they have on the new CBR600's also.

This actually looks pretty decent...still not sure about the shaft.

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/e...FR-1200-V4.jpg

The exhaust is hideous but I like the rest of the bike and am sure that can be replaced anyway.

Tom

I hate the stock exhaust on almost any new bike and that's the 2nd thing I usually change. The first is the Starship Enterprise looking things that hang off the rear of the bikes. :lol:

Wow........Do not want. The current one is so much better looking.

and the current 1 is ugly as sin too........

The VFR isn't really my style anyways BUT the red one looks pretty decent to me considering how the pictures looked at the beginning of the thread.

Why is the rear wheel 4 bolt in one pic, and 5 in the other?

:lol: I didn't even catch that.

better than your old relic IMO :lmao:

not IMO, the 98-02 were the last of the greatness for the VFRs. they suck nowadays.

Agree.

chain driven cams. blech
vtec. blech
styling. blech
price. blech

I would say the 98-02s were the best ones ever(with the 86-88s a close second)

Here we go again. You guys seriously think the first pic looks better than the second? You're on crack. :lol: The first one has an ugly seat, ugly headlight, ugly turn signals, and exhaust that's hung too low.

I think you guys are just saying "I hate the new engine so I'm gonna hate its styling too"

I'm not a fan of either.

The second one is so ugly that by default I am forced to chosse the first.

The previous bike shits all over both of those:
http://www.vintageairstreamer.com/ot...es/1994vfr.jpg

Troof. Early-mid 90's bikes owned. 98-02 bikes were horrid from all manufacturers, with the exception of the R1.

:lol A great bike (esp. for its time), but nowhere near as capable or refined as the 5th or 6th gens.

I'm partial to the 5th gen myself (with plenty of tweaking), but I'm admittedly a bit biased:

http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/IMG_0218.jpg


As for the 7th gen 1200 - like all other bikes previews I see in mags or on the net, I'll look at them but reserve judgment until I actually see it in person and have a chance to ride it. :)

You are all crazy!!! You have to be an idiot to build a single sided swing arm bike and then put the exhaust in front of the wheel!!!

:lol: F'n hilarious....and very true.

Definately.

Are we all going to argue about aesthetics and styling or shall we look deeper into what is a very interesing specimen. Variable cylinder tech with ability to run as a twin, triple, or V4? Semi auto double clutch gearbox with 3 ECU modes including automatic? Probably more ECU processing power than the space shuttle, no doubt the latest gen anti-lock, who knows traction control, ? Think about what these developments could do for the future of motorcycles and how his could be the biggest new thing in decades...

I gave up on arguments of that nature on motorcycle boards a long time ago. Don't you know all that that silly mechanical stuff doesn't really matter compared to the primary concerns of the exhaust, fender, and turnsignals?.... :whistle:

That's why I just say I'll check it out & ride it in person. :wink:

Well when you put it like that it does sound pretty bad ass.

Or watered down.

Auto/manual transmission, ABS, big processing power, etc....sounds like my wife's Accord.

Well, that too.

Hey I bought my 'Busa completely ignoring it's looks and it wasn't easy!!!:lol:

I bought my Buell with alot of reservation about its looks. I will fix what I can and live with the rest as I value it as a machine over its goofy wide front end.

The new transmission may be awkward at first but I see potential for an F1 type seemless power delivery. The mult cylinder thing may just save gas for now, but may lead to better power quality and delivery later.
how would you like top run 'big bang' twin and then flick a switch and run a staggered fire V4! Then aother flick and you have a real twin or alternaing triple?

Well to me, looks are right up there with how it rides. As for ABS, maybe you guys who commute in the rain might care about it, but I don't.

first commercial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaJcvAg07IA

^ LOL, epic gheyness

I am surprised it didn't have two guys making out when they had the whole Explore your limits shit.

id completely hate it. motorcycles are the last bastion of vehicular purity. most people drive like pure shit because the car does everything for them. do you really want to usher in a new breed of riders who are that pathetically incapable? arent the ones we have now bad enough? lets not even talk of the weight added by all this nonsense

i usually love honda commercials... but what the fuck!

plusone......Now there's a real VFR, unlike the last 10-12 years where they've been given a standard-bike style riding position :lol:

What. You dont like bikes that you can ride for more than an hour without cramping up?

It better wheelie from throttle only at 197mph.

It better be that Hi tech and that good, cause it doesnt have the looks to bargain with! If it is that good, and I have a suspiscion it will be, it will find a market.

I just dont like the shaft.

I really dont like the stub exhausts theyre putting on bikes lately. Either bring it up high or keep the whole thing under the bike like the Buell system.

Those pics show a front mounted radiator which I dont think will happen, if they keep the side mounted radiators that the current VFRs have theyll have to cut the fairing panels to allow airflow which I think would look better anyway.

I dont kniow about that. That video and the website look a little to half-assed to be Honda's work. The video is just text and stock video.

The comfort might be my favorite thing about VFRs. One of the few bikes not made only for 5'4" Japanese guys.

heres a honda ad
[youtube]1YY1Mzl9z6Q[/youtube]

You bought a 'busa?

Im seriously considering trading the Harley for a new Hayabusa next spring. I miss having ridiculous power and handling on tap, but want something im comfortable enough to take trips on..

You might consider checking out an FJR1300. Not quite 'busa power, but still pulls like a very smooth & refined freight-train + it would be outstanding for long-distance riding (especially for a big/tall guy). I just recently installed an Ohlins shock & reworked the forks w/ racetech internals on one a buddy of mine owns - now it handles outstandingly well too.

Looks good, Ed. Squid. redflip

he had one back when the zx12r was news

:lol That is great.

hahahahahaha that's hilarious :lmao:

"Kinda" sounds like gear driven cams. Fingers crossed.

Ehhh- though I think the 'paddle shifting' mode might be fun to play with, it seems like a lot of technology/componentry to fix something which ain't broke (for a reasonably skilled rider, which is all that really belongs on a bike of that size/power anyway). I think it would be much more 'at home' on a GoldWing, and I could see it being much more of a positive on the true touring bikes. Then again, the FJR has the e-shift model, and the VFR seems to be going the way of the BIG sport-touring bikes, so I guess it makes some sense. I really would have preferred them to go the other way with a sport-touring focused bike though. :shrug:

Hear, hear! I'm no Honda fan but a race oriented VFR would tilt my kilt!!!:lol: Heck, and maybe it would make for some interesting racing against the new Aprilla

2 pages about it in this issue of Motorcyclist.

After Aprilla released their V4 race engine I thougth Honda would knock Aprilla down and dry hump them with a new race V4. I guess they were too far into production with this engine.

Its just more weight and something to have a chance to go wrong.

One phrase.

"Its gonna be expensive"


I just dont get it. I heard over and over vfr sells weren't doing well in the US and they want to add more "not needed" stuff to the bike and expect people to pay for it.


I'm out.

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/624/47...nd-CB1100.aspx

"Honda has confirmed its motorcycle lineup for the upcoming 2009 Tokyo Motorcycle Show, set for October 24 – November 4. Headlining the list is official conformation of a V-4 powered sport-touring motorcycle, the VFR1200F. Also slated to debut at Tokyo is the four-cylinder, retro-styled CB1100. "