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Yamerhaw 07-03-2009 01:54 PM

Wish me luck!
 
Just put on a "not high performance" rear tire

I love the Pirelli Corsa III's, but only got 1,200- 1,300 miles out of the last 2 rears, so thought i'd try something else

went with the Michelin Pilot Road 2

it's dual compond so maybe it will be pretty decent

still have the Corsa III up front, it just had too much tread left, so i couldnt see spending the extra cash for another

tached1000rr 07-03-2009 01:57 PM

You gonna head up to the snake and break it in?

Amber Lamps 07-03-2009 02:41 PM

Hey do you plan on riding this weekend? Btw I considered a Bridgestone BT-021 for a rear but I let emailed Bridgestone and they talked me out of it. Be careful until you have a feel for the new handling and grip characteristics. Especially when mixing brands.

Tmall 07-03-2009 02:47 PM

Unless you're ridiculous on that tire, it will more than meet your needs.

I leaned my roads over harder than my corsa's and neither were near the edge of their grip.

In fact....

Ill try to get pics of both..

'73 H1 Triple 07-03-2009 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 235751)
Hey do you plan on riding this weekend? Btw I considered a Bridgestone BT-021 for a rear but I let emailed Bridgestone and they talked me out of it. Be careful until you have a feel for the new handling and grip characteristics. Especially when mixing brands.

Did you explain your riding style and they based the decision on that info or they just selling you more tires? :skep:

Jeff

Yamerhaw 07-03-2009 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tached1000rr (Post 235739)
You gonna head up to the snake and break it in?


probably not, too many cops

Quote:

Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 235751)
Hey do you plan on riding this weekend? Btw I considered a Bridgestone BT-021 for a rear but I let emailed Bridgestone and they talked me out of it. Be careful until you have a feel for the new handling and grip characteristics. Especially when mixing brands.



yeah might ride sunday if it doesnt rain, tonight and tomorrow got to do family stuff

Yamerhaw 07-03-2009 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tmall (Post 235755)
Unless you're ridiculous on that tire, it will more than meet your needs.

I leaned my roads over harder than my corsa's and neither were near the edge of their grip.

In fact....

Ill try to get pics of both..


i'm not terribly worried about leaning grip as much as getting back on the gas hard coming out of a corner

Amber Lamps 07-03-2009 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Yamerhaw (Post 235771)
i'm not terribly worried about leaning grip as much as getting back on the gas hard coming out of a corner

Yea, the guy at Bridgestone had concerns in that area. To be honest none of the tires in this category are recommended for the GSXR1000. I'm not saying that it's a bad idea but I know that you'll be careful until you're used to the difference.:rockwoot:

RedRider2k2 07-04-2009 12:17 AM

Local guy ran them at a track day recently on his zx10. Hard in the corners and lifting the front end, hard out of the corners...He had no complaints.

was92v 07-05-2009 10:39 AM

Bridgestone tested the 021 on ZX14's on a race track and they did pretty well I am told.
I have a friend that is faster than you would really believe on a 1200 Bandit of all things and he said they worked well but he only got 2200 miles out of the rear. He usually destroys a
super sport type tire in about 1500, so there is some difference. On my 600 I get about 5K out of the 021, but it is the front that wears out first.

Particle Man 07-08-2009 02:26 PM

please post up on what you think of the dual compound. People keep telling me they love them but I'm not sold quite yet...

karl_1052 07-08-2009 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 237906)
please post up on what you think of the dual compound. People keep telling me they love them but I'm not sold quite yet...

You should try the 016 from B-stone, it is a triple compound tire.

Particle Man 07-09-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 238284)
You should try the 016 from B-stone, it is a triple compound tire.

have you tried it?

fasternyou929 07-09-2009 03:10 PM

Let me know what you think, Yammer. Now that I've started running Power Races at the track instead of letting Pilot Powers pull double-duty, I wouldn't mind getting more miles out of my street tires.

Providing I don't end up doing a couple of those miles on the fairings, of course.

karl_1052 07-09-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Particle Man (Post 238749)
have you tried it?

I have the dual compound 015s, and I don't like them much, but I loved the 010, and 014s which were both dual compound, on my GSXR.

Amber Lamps 07-09-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 238786)
I have the dual compound 015s, and I don't like them much, but I loved the 010, and 014s which were both dual compound, on my GSXR.

Wrong... neither the BT-010, BT-015 nor the BT-014s were multiple compound street tires. I believe that the BT-001 used dual compound in the rear tire and the BT-016 and BT-002 were the first bridgestone street tires to use multiple compound technology in both tires. I've used several BT-010s, BT-012SS and BT-014s ( I hated the 014s and went to Pirelli). I came back to Bridgestone with the BT-016s and am currently running the BT-002RS tires with a set of the BT-003RS tires on the way. Which I'll spoon on once I destroy the spare 002 rear I have on my porch. You sir, don't know what you're talking about and should probably avoid tire threads in the future...:lol: Just kidding!

karl_1052 07-09-2009 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 238829)
You sir, don't know what you're talking about and should probably avoid tire threads in the future...:lol: Just kidding!

On that you are probably right.

I always thought the Dual Aligned Compound was two different compounds.

From sport rider:
Quote:

The BT-010 also features Bridgestones famous Dual Aligned Compound (DAC) technology, which allows variable alignment of the molecules in a single sheet of rubber. This has enabled the central tread area to be optimised for wear resistance under acceleration and braking, while the shoulder gives strong cornering ability. And because only one tread rubber is used, performance remains constant throughout the life of the tyre. Bridgestone's hydroplaning simulation software has contributed to a front tread pattern design in which all the grooves are placed to dispel water most effectively. In addition, the front blocks maintain continuous, unbroken contact with the road surface.
http://www.sportrider.com/tech/tires...res/index.html

Amber Lamps 07-09-2009 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052 (Post 238896)
On that you are probably right.

I always thought the Dual Aligned Compound was two different compounds.

From sport rider:


http://www.sportrider.com/tech/tires...res/index.html


Fair enough ! :lol: Actually, considering the corporate double talk that is constantly being bandied about. It's incredibly easy to get confused concerning these tires. Heck, I can't find the compound information on the BT-001 tires anymore. So I'm not 100% what they consist of.:idk:

101lifts2 07-10-2009 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 238932)
Fair enough ! :lol: Actually, considering the corporate double talk that is constantly being bandied about. It's incredibly easy to get confused concerning these tires. Heck, I can't find the compound information on the BT-001 tires anymore. So I'm not 100% what they consist of.:idk:

Why are you bringing up a BT-001 race tire into a BT-021 mix? :lol

BT003 is where its at...

Amber Lamps 07-10-2009 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2 (Post 238943)
Why are you bringing up a BT-001 race tire into a BT-021 mix? :lol

BT003 is where its at...


Look, read the rest of the posts and you'll get your answer. There was a discussion on which tires were dual compound and the BT-001s were the first Bridgestone street tires to use dual compound. Oh and the BT-001s were also street tires and OEM on a couple bikes. Bridgestone typically releases their "dot" race tires in street versions with a RS designation. Get your facts straight before you question me buddy!:lol:

Yamerhaw 07-10-2009 12:48 PM

rode them pretty hard last saturday, seemed to do pretty good, no traction issues, just took getting used to turning in faster than the diablos, just have to wait and see how many miles i get out of them

Amber Lamps 07-10-2009 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Yamerhaw (Post 239147)
rode them pretty hard last saturday, seemed to do pretty good, no traction issues, just took getting used to turning in faster than the diablos, just have to wait and see how many miles i get out of them

Damn! I was so going to buy the BT-021s but was afraid of losing the traction I am used to... Oh well, my gf bought me the tire set-up so now I hardly care about mileage! I'm saving $50-100 per tire change!:rockwoot:

101lifts2 07-11-2009 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 238966)
Look, read the rest of the posts and you'll get your answer. There was a discussion on which tires were dual compound and the BT-001s were the first Bridgestone street tires to use dual compound. Oh and the BT-001s were also street tires and OEM on a couple bikes. Bridgestone typically releases their "dot" race tires in street versions with a RS designation. Get your facts straight before you question me buddy!:lol:

My bad I didn't read the upper stuff. lol

I thought BT001s were only in race compounds.

t-homo 07-11-2009 02:43 AM

I bet over 2/3 of the actual riders around here use 016s. I'm about to go to them after I wear out my Rossos. I have got about 7 thousand miles on em now. Great grip, great wear. 300 bucks for a set, though. I'll see what mileage I get out of the 016s and compare miles/dollar and performance.

'73 H1 Triple 07-11-2009 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 239250)
Damn! I was so going to buy the BT-021s but was afraid of losing the traction I am used to... Oh well, my gf bought me the tire set-up so now I hardly care about mileage! I'm saving $50-100 per tire change!:rockwoot:

If you're an AMA member, check out the prices at bikebandit.com , go thru checkout and put in your AMA membership number. When I checked, it knocked the price down about 10% on Bridgestone BT-021's

Jeff

was92v 07-11-2009 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TIGGER (Post 238829)
Wrong... neither the BT-010, BT-015 nor the BT-014s were multiple compound street tires. I believe that the BT-001 used dual compound in the rear tire and the BT-016 and BT-002 were the first bridgestone street tires to use multiple compound technology in both tires. I've used several BT-010s, BT-012SS and BT-014s ( I hated the 014s and went to Pirelli). I came back to Bridgestone with the BT-016s and am currently running the BT-002RS tires with a set of the BT-003RS tires on the way. Which I'll spoon on once I destroy the spare 002 rear I have on my porch. You sir, don't know what you're talking about and should probably avoid tire threads in the future...:lol: Just kidding!

The BS engineer I worked with told me that the 014's are triple compound. The standard Med center, Soft sides and a top layer of softer black stuff. The idea was to put on a new set, do a track day on the track compound and them use the rest of the tire as a dual compound sport tire. I don't think the tires they gave me to test were one off ringers. I bought the 021's I'm running now on the open market and they perform just as well as the tires that Bridgestone provided to me for eval. I preferred the 021 over the 014.
The first dual compound street tires I remember hearing about were the Bridgestone S-11 Spitfire back in the late 80's or early 90's.


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