Lied with the S1000rr

[nhgunnut]

Has anyone here lived with the S1000rr? My wife is on my to shrink the stable I am thinking of getting rid of my 2 Suzukis Keeping the gold Wing and getting something like the S1000rr or the 1199. Little leery of the 1199 in that it is first year of production. The BMW has been around long enough to get sorted a bit. If you own one any thoughts?

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by nhgunnut

Has anyone here lived with the S1000rr? My wife is on my to shrink the stable I am thinking of getting rid of my 2 Suzukis Keeping the gold Wing and getting something like the S1000rr or the 1199. Little leery of the 1199 in that it is first year of production. The BMW has been around long enough to get sorted a bit. If you own one any thoughts?

Yes, we have one as a track bike. My best friend has one - and working with the demo fleet for the past few years I've watched them get beat to hell by the public.

This year, they have 38 updates to the new model. They have given the bike a better suspension, rake and aerodynamics. The power delivery has been updated and the bike has a GPS that will tell you best lap among other details if you decide to track it. The data acquisition on this bike is unlike any out there in the stock form. Oh, and you can get heated handgrips

The Ducati, it's beautiful, incredibly narrow and the power/torque delivery on it is worthy of the brand. But, like you said it's the first year. And, given the design using the engine as a "frame" there have already been some complications.

If you are looking for a used one, I know of two that have nice upgrade bits that are going up for sale. They both are getting new models and will need to let last year's model go.

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by azoomm

The Ducati, it's beautiful, incredibly narrow and the power/torque delivery on it is worthy of the brand. But, like you said it's the first year. And, given the design using the engine as a "frame" there have already been some complications.

All modern Ducati's with trellis frames, employ the engine as a "stressed member".

First year, last year...it doesn't matter. They will find a way to fuck something expensive up, no matter what. Ducati specializes in "complications".

I'd still take one over the BMW, but then again, I'm a fucking idiot.

JC

[Dave]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

All modern Ducati's with trellis frames, employ the engine as a "stressed member".

First year, last year...it doesn't matter. They will find a way to fuck something expensive up, no matter what. Ducati specializes in "complications".

I'd still take one over the BMW, but then again, I'm a fucking idiot.

JC

Thought the panigale didn't have a trellis?

[nhgunnut]

Originally Posted by Dave

Thought the panigale didn't have a trellis?

It doesn'tis has a It is a perimeter framed engine

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by nhgunnut

It doesn'tis has a It is a perimeter framed engine

Not really, unless they changed the design from what I'm looking at.

Perimeter frames connect the steering head to the swing arm in one piece. The Panigale is a two piece frame, (three if you count the engine). Not quite the same thing.

Perimeter vs. Panigale:

JC

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by Dave

Thought the panigale didn't have a trellis?

Sorry, I worded that poorly.

All modern Ducati's have used the engine as a stressed member.

My point was, the stressed member design has been around for a long time (the 1949 Vincent Black Shadow was such a design) and the design itself would not cause me to worry.

JC

[goof2]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

I'd still take one over the BMW, but then again, I'm a fucking idiot.

JC

Not that I'm getting any of them anytime soon, but change the 1199 to an 1198 and I am similarly impaired.

I'm slow as hell anyway so any performance difference is irrelevant and a Duc with a good exhaust, well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfH...eature=related

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by goof2

Not that I'm getting any of them anytime soon, but change the 1199 to an 1198 and I am similarly impaired.

I'm slow as hell anyway so any performance difference is irrelevant and a Duc with a good exhaust, well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfH...eature=related

I know what you mean.

Fucking Ducati's....I've had four of them, and I should really hate them by now, but I can't.

JC

[shmike]

The BMW is a great bike in stock form.

If you are looking to maximize the potential of the bike, there are far better platforms to start from.