The PhD problem: are we giving out too many degrees?

[pauldun170]

http://arstechnica.com/science/news/...doctorates.ars

[Homeslice]

Too many PhD's? No, but we're definitely giving out too many Bachelor's.

[Papa_Complex]

Actually I think that we give out far too many degrees, period.They're being devalued. Everyone seems to think that they're owed higher education; especially those who have no aptitude.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Actually I think that we give out far too many degrees, period.They're being devalued. Everyone seems to think that they're owed higher education; especially those who have no aptitude.

I agree. It seems like some of the people who get degrees now would struggle to get a high school diploma.

[derf]

Originally Posted by goof2

I agree. It seems like some of the people who get degrees now would struggle to get a high school diploma.

where is Drewpy when you are looking for an educated opinion?

[Adeptus_Minor]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Actually I think that we give out far too many degrees, period.They're being devalued. Everyone seems to think that they're owed higher education; especially those who have no aptitude.

Well, what do you expect when it's been beaten into most of us for generations that you can't have a decent paying job without a degree?

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor

Well, what do you expect when it's been beaten into most of us for generations that you can't have a decent paying job without a degree?

Yup, sure has. I turned down a machinist apprenticeship, straight out of college, because I was by damn going to use my diploma. Unfortunately we still need carpenters, plumbers, electricians, garbage men, general labourers, ...... There's a good living to be made in such areas; likely better than at some helpdesk, that's going to be outsourced anyway.

[RACER X]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Yup, sure has. I turned down a machinist apprenticeship, straight out of college, because I was by damn going to use my diploma. Unfortunately we still need carpenters, plumbers, electricians, garbage men, general labourers, ...... There's a good living to be made in such areas; likely better than at some helpdesk, that's going to be outsourced anyway.

So is that what you want to instil in your kids to be when they grow up,a general laborer?

College degreed people still make more on avg then h.s. Degreed people

[MILK]

Originally Posted by RACER X

So is that what you want to instil in your kids to be when they grow up,a general laborer?

College degreed people still make more on avg then h.s. Degreed people

Agreed! What I told my son is that with a good education you can CHOOSE to dig ditches if you want. With no education you don't get to choose.

No one gave me my degree. I earned it.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by RACER X

So is that what you want to instil in your kids to be when they grow up,a general laborer?

College degreed people still make more on avg then h.s. Degreed people

Actually I would want to tell my children that they should do a job they can be proud of, enjoy doing, and ultimately and most importantly make a living wage on. There is nothing to be ashamed of, in doing an honest day's work.

THAT is what I would want to instill in my children.