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02-20-2009, 01:43 PM | #1 |
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MC Bracket Road Racing
Very intriguing idea from Track addix...From the RRW website
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...?article=35614 TrackAddix Re-Introduces Bracket-Style Motorcycle Road Racing Feb 19, 2009, ©Copyright 2009, Roadracing World Publishing, Inc. WERA co-founder Peter Frank's idea from the 1970s is reborn... From a press release issued by TrackAddix: TrackAddix is pleased to announce the creation of the TrackAddix MotoCup Challenge. "Fun and Affordable Racing, where even the slow rider has a chance to win!". * Are you tired of gate fees and high race entry costs? * Are you tired of spending mega-bucks to race and never have a chance to win? * Are you tired of racing beyond your riding limits only to end up crashing? * Do the risks of multi-bike race starts and the turn 1 "crashfest" concern you? * Do you want to get back to fun, affordable, stress-free racing? * Are you looking for a new and exciting racing challenge? OR * Are you just a track day rider who wants a taste of racing without the financial commitment of a typical club racing series? Try your hand at racing without having to invest in an all-out race bike. OR Race your buddies for fun. OR Compete to help launch your own racing career. Whatever racing action you're looking for, the TrackAddix MotoCup Challenge is an affordable fun filled way to go. The MotoCup Challenge is a safer form of racing that uses a "bracket time" concept to create a level playing field where every rider has an equal chance of winning the race regardless of experience level or the type of motorcycle they are riding. Competitors are not only racing against each other, but are also racing against the clock and their own ability to consistently turn laps at a given pace. There is NO group start and NO turn 1 "crashfest" like in traditional motorcycle roadracing. Riders are started individually based on a "bracket time" they choose. The bracket time is the equivalent of the "total race time" in which the rider expects to complete the entire race. In other words, the lap time you think you can consistently run multiplied by the number of laps in the race. Slower riders are gridded first and start before faster riders. Slower riders are given a "head start" based on the difference between their chosen bracket time versus the faster riders' chosen bracket time. The faster riders won't be able to catch up to the slower riders until near the end of the race. Ideally, if everyone ran their exact bracket time, all competitors would reach the finish line at the same time. Which will make for a very exciting finish! You can make the TrackAddix MotoCup Challenge whatever type of race you want it to be! If you're the type of person who wants to ride at 100%, then you simply choose a bracket time that will challenge your riding limits. OR If you just want to ride at a comfortable pace for your abilities, then you choose an appropriate bracket time that will keep you in your comfort zone. Everyone has the same chance to win. So come on out, enjoy a fun filled day of track riding, and then satisfy your need for competition without breaking your wallet. Visit TrackAddix.com for complete details on the new MotoCup Challenge. Also, review our MotoCup Challenge Frequently Asked Questions for further information. This looks cool because you could race a bike and win without having to anty up for the latest and greatest parts. No need to outspend the competition or build a better mousetrap, just make what you have consistent! On the other hand you have to negotiate traffic, not run to fast for your bracket, and faster riders would be handicapped by starting in the back of the grid. They know they run consistent 1'30"s but can you accurately predict that lap time and pace thru heavy traffic?
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02-20-2009, 01:49 PM | #2 | |
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If you're choosing the bracket time, wouldn't that make it open for people to be douchebags and choose slow bracket times and ride faster? Kinda like advanced riders riding in intermediate to make themselves feel better...
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02-20-2009, 01:53 PM | #3 |
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There would be a breakout like in drag racing. You pick a time to "dial in" and then you have a over under margin. IE, I can complete these 10 laps at 1 min 30 per lap or 15 minutes total elasped time. You have to run it as you called it to win. Any faster than you predict you break out, any slower than your prediction will get you beat by a rider who guessed their time by a smaller margin.
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02-20-2009, 02:08 PM | #4 | |
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Ex: 5 lap race, you choose 10 minutes as your time. If you complete the race in 8 minutes, you beat your time. Someone else chooses 12 minutes as their bracket. They finish in 13 minutes. Person #2 is the winner, as they came closer to their chosen bracket. If it works like drag racing, you (Example #1) would actually have been automatically DQ'd for "breaking out" of your bracket. It is actually better to run slower than your expected time than faster. |
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02-20-2009, 02:13 PM | #5 | |
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ah ok, so you would want to finish in the time you guess, I am guessing they would ban lap timers for events like this.
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02-20-2009, 02:23 PM | #6 |
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now that sounds interesting. Ill have to see if they are gonna have anything local
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02-20-2009, 02:50 PM | #7 |
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After years of getting beat by $$ rather than by better riders this looks cool to me. Of course I gave as good as I got, beating some riders regardless of their equipment, but the ones who smoked by on $20,000 middleweights who get 2-3 sets a tires per day really chapped my hiney.
This way I could take "ole bessy" keep her stock suspension and 2 weekend old tires and still come home happy. My only puase to question is sometimes race laps can slow dramatically if traffic holds you up. Therefore gridding the slower riders in front seems like the wrong thing to do. Might cause accidents, definetly would throw another variable into figuring your final total race time...
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02-20-2009, 02:59 PM | #8 | |
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Based on the PR, it seems like it would be a staggered start so that traffic shouldn't be an issue until the very end. One concern that popped in my head was the idea that everybody finished at once. I realize that is only a best case scenario but can you imagine the chaos of having 10 1:30 guys finishing at the same time as 10 1:55 guys? Not only that, what happens when two or three fast guy are barrelling down the last straight wheel to wheel when the leader realizes he is about to break out but the guy following still is on the gas? |
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02-20-2009, 03:28 PM | #9 |
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This looks like it could be hella fun! Get race thrills to see if ya like it without all the cash and stress involved...hhmmm, great post!
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02-20-2009, 05:53 PM | #10 |
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I agree Shmike. Scoring nightmare! Transponders would be a must and then race control would have to double check everyones dial in.
As for the break out brake check I don't think the riders would be allowed lap timers or anything that would tip them off to their time. They shouldn't know, but if they did then they would have backed off their pace long before the last straight away on the last lap and letting faster riders pass would be ok as you never know what their dial in was or how the pass would effect your finish. (that last part would be murder on the assholes that hate to be passed, not mentioning any names here...)
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