Animal Abortions

Hondahugger · 01-26-2009, 09:59 AM

So my new assistant asked me if I knew where her mother could take her 14 year old Taco Bell dog to get an abortion. WTF!!!!!!!

My first thought was why isn't the 14 year old dog spayed to begin with and was that even legal to do. After calling an area vet, I found it that it is legal and could be done for about $200.00 +/-. That was Friday, it's now Monday and I'm still in shock!

So the Vet explained to me that not only is the dog at HIGH risk of death if they allow her to deliver the puppies because this dog also has cancer, but she's at HIGH risk trying to have the surgery. From the vets point of view, the dog is dead either way.

So then I found myself PISSED OFF that these pet owners could be so irresponsible as to have never had their dog spayed and allowed this dog to be put into this position and now wants to use abortion as a form of birth control and risk their dog's life that has been a member of the family for 14 years. This dog should be spending her last days as confortable as she can be, not like this.

Has anyone ever even heard of anything like this? I tried to look up Canine Abortions on the web and couldn't find anything.

fatbuckRTO · 01-26-2009, 10:09 AM

As I understand it, if it's known early enough spaying will effectively terminate a dog pregnancy. It doesn't surprise me that it's both available and legal. I'm glad it is; there are far too many strays on the streets as it is. Dogs are meant to live with and be cared for by people.

Obviously neutering and spaying early is the better option, though. Pregnancies are tough on dogs regardless of age. It pains me to see dogs being used as breeding stock.

cuttle · 01-26-2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO

As I understand it, if it's known early enough spaying will effectively terminate a dog pregnancy. It doesn't surprise me that it's both available and legal. I'm glad it is; there are far too many strays on the streets as it is. Dogs are meant to live with and be cared for by people.

Obviously neutering and spaying early is the better option, though.

yup - a lot of dogs and cats are getting spayed while pregnant (which is technically and abortion).

Nothing unusual:

http://www.humanealliance.org/HA2/fees.htm

Hondahugger · 01-26-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO

As I understand it, if it's known early enough spaying will effectively terminate a dog pregnancy. It doesn't surprise me that it's both available and legal. I'm glad it is; there are far too many strays on the streets as it is. Dogs are meant to live with and be cared for by people.

Obviously neutering and spaying early is the better option, though. Pregnancies are tough on dogs regardless of age. It pains me to see dogs being used as breeding stock.

That's what the Vet said, the surgery that they do is spaying the dog which will in turn, abort the puppies. I understand that part of it. Spaying a dog is the same as giving a woman a hysterectomy and while neautering a male isn't quite the same as a vasectomy, the poor dog loses his entire nuts!

I grew up on a 40 acre horse ranch doing rescue work for the ASPCA and the Humane Society and I've seen a lot of things in the animal world. I'm a HUGE advocate for spaying and neutering pets and it just pisses me off when owners are irresponsible like this.

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Originally Posted by cuttle

yup - a lot of dogs and cats are getting spayed while pregnant (which is technically and abortion).

Nothing unusual:

http://www.humanealliance.org/HA2/fees.htm

The link didn't take me anywhere.

Hondahugger · 01-26-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by shmike

I agree with Bob Barker, everyone should have their boyfriends spayed or neutered.

azoomm · 01-26-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Hondahugger

That's what the Vet said, the surgery that they do is spaying the dog which will in turn, abort the puppies. I understand that part of it. Spaying a dog is the same as giving a woman a hysterectomy and while neautering a male isn't quite the same as a vasectomy, the poor dog loses his entire nuts!

I grew up on a 40 acre horse ranch doing rescue work for the ASPCA and the Humane Society and I've seen a lot of things in the animal world. I'm a HUGE advocate for spaying and neutering pets and it just pisses me off when owners are irresponsible like this.

The link didn't take me anywhere.

The link works for me

it outlines fees including for animals that are pregnant.

If you truly lived and worked on a ranch, then you wouldn't find this as news, or shocking. There are many things that happen on a ranch/farm that the rest of the world WOULD find both news AND shocking. Life happens, and death happens... it's trying to find that balance that is the tricky part.

Adeptus_Minor · 01-26-2009, 01:24 PM

I'm a big fan of animal abortions... breakfast would be missing something without them.

dReWpY · 01-26-2009, 02:39 PM

abortion, goes great with toast

Amorok · 01-26-2009, 04:45 PM

How odd, an animal abortion costs almost as much as one for us.

the chi · 01-26-2009, 05:17 PM

Its just one of those things. People dont get upset, because its "just an animal". Azzoom is right, if the general public knew HALF what goes on at a real ranching operation, etc, they would be appalled, while those used to it accept it as what it is.

For Z, smaller dogs tend to live much longer, at 14 a chihuhua may still havea few years, but yeah, shes getting to the end there.

As for the owners not spaying her and allowing her to get pregnant, they SHOULD be punched in the face, and rest assured, any self respecting vet WILL give them an earful on the matter.

Its more expensive and vastly more dangerous to perform any type of surgery on an animal when its in heat or pregnant, and almost always fatal if combinations like cancer and old age are involved.

Assholes. They should have their asses kicked.

01-26-2009, 10:09 AM	#2
fatbuckRTO This is not the sig line. Join Date: Dec 2008 Moto: Be prepared. What? Oh, moto... Posts: 1,279	As I understand it, if it's known early enough spaying will effectively terminate a dog pregnancy. It doesn't surprise me that it's both available and legal. I'm glad it is; there are far too many strays on the streets as it is. Dogs are meant to live with and be cared for by people. Obviously neutering and spaying early is the better option, though. Pregnancies are tough on dogs regardless of age. It pains me to see dogs being used as breeding stock. __________________ This was no time for half measures. He was a captain, godsdammit. An officer. Things like this didn't present a problem for an officer. Officers had a tried and tested way of solving problems like this. It was called a sergeant. -Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!

01-26-2009, 01:24 PM	#7
Adeptus_Minor Hopster Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Austin, TX Moto: 2009 Buell 1125R Posts: 4,743	I'm a big fan of animal abortions... breakfast would be missing something without them. __________________ “Well, obviously before; after was all gendarmes and dick stitches.”

01-26-2009, 04:45 PM	#9
Amorok Issukangitok Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Biloxi, MS Moto: '06 Suzuki Boulevard C50T Posts: 2,225	How odd, an animal abortion costs almost as much as one for us. __________________ What goes around comes around. Sometimes you get what's coming around, and sometimes you are what's coming around. You see what I mean?