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Old 10-21-2008, 07:30 PM   #1
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Default First rule of four-wheeling

As an exploration geologist, I spent a lot of time four-wheeling in the wilderness. The number 1 rule of jeeping was not to do it at night. I only broke the rule once. Twisted the rear driveshaft in Utah and had to drive up a steep trail at night with two-wheel drive. On some switchbacks, the headlights were black. That's because they shined out on nothingness. The trail was next to a 500ft cliff.

A father and son were killed on Monday, when their Jeep went off a trail at night and plunged down a cliff. The father's body was found 300 feet down the mountain, and the son's 1,000 feet down. They still haven't found the Jeep yet. Story: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...-killed-plung/.
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Old 10-21-2008, 07:56 PM   #2
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As an exploration geologist, I spent a lot of time four-wheeling in the wilderness. The number 1 rule of jeeping was not to do it at night. I only broke the rule once. Twisted the rear driveshaft in Utah and had to drive up a steep trail at night with two-wheel drive. On some switchbacks, the headlights were black. That's because they shined out on nothingness. The trail was next to a 500ft cliff.

A father and son were killed on Monday, when their Jeep went off a trail at night and plunged down a cliff. The father's body was found 300 feet down the mountain, and the son's 1,000 feet down. They still haven't found the Jeep yet. Story: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/new...-killed-plung/.
first: thats a sad story that you hate to hear

second: did not know you were a geologist, i completed my minor in undergrad in geology, majored in enviromental science and biology, dont think i could us the geology background in TN, but out west geology has a better job market.
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I was gonna make a joke about the first rule of 4 wheeling...but this story brings me down. So no joke.
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Old 10-21-2008, 08:45 PM   #4
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I was gonna make a joke about the first rule of 4 wheeling...but this story brings me down. So no joke.
The son was 9 years old. Hell of a phone call for the wife/mom to get.
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The son was 9 years old. Hell of a phone call for the wife/mom to get.
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No more sad threads. I can't take it.
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Old 10-22-2008, 06:56 PM   #7
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...did not know you were a geologist, i completed my minor in undergrad in geology, majored in enviromental science and biology, dont think i could us the geology background in TN, but out west geology has a better job market.
I worked in mining for two years before I got into exploration and evaluation of mining properties. In 1988, I was evaluating some uranium properties in Utah. The Hey Joe Mine was one of them: http://www.utah.com/offroad/hey_joe.htm. The cliff was actually 600 feet. On the trail along the Green River, a rock the size of a garage fell on the road. Being a lazy SOB, I wanted to ride over the rock instead of hiking to the mine. I had a brand new Dodge Ramcharger. I made it over the rock, but broke the rear driveshaft. Here's what torque from a 360, four barrel, granny gear, and low range can do to a driveshaft.

Twisted it like a pretzel. After getting to the other side of the rock, we had to go back over with just the front wheel drive. Luckily the Dodge had a Warn winch. But it took us all day. That's why we had to go up the cliff trail at night. Rented two ATV's and made it to the mine after we got a new driveshaft. The reason I didn't want to hike was all the mapping, sampling, and safety gear we has to use to safely go into an abandoned uranium mine.
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:26 AM   #8
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That storry is beyond sad.
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:37 AM   #9
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First and Foremost...RIP to the Father and Son...Thats Tragic

Secondly...That Driveshaft is Ridiculous.

I've wheeled before with myself and My dad and a Few buddies of Mine...Never at Night though...Always wanted to thought it would be cool but I just dont like that Visibility is Key and when you see a "puddle" it might really be a Lake.
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Old 10-23-2008, 12:59 PM   #10
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As a kid, we wheeled 90% at night. Luckily we have lots of trees to keep you from rolling to far down the Mtn.
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