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Old 02-23-2011, 02:40 PM   #1
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Kansas House Approves Bill Allowing Motorcycles to Run Red Lights

Published February 23, 2011

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Ever been itching to run a red light that just won't change? Kansas lawmakers think motorcycle riders should be able to do just that.

The Kansas House on Tuesday approved a bill that would allow bikers to run a red light if the signal "fails" to turn green after a "reasonable period of time." The proposal leaves the discretion in the hands of the motorcyclist, but is aimed at ensuring riders don't get trapped in perpetuity at intersections because of signals that either malfunction or don't detect the motorcycles.

Motorcycle riders testified this month that their bikes were often not big or heavy enough to trigger the sensors that cause red lights to switch. For fear that riders would have to choose between being stuck on the Kansas tundra or running a light and risking a ticket, they urged the legislature to approve the so-called "Dead Red" bill giving them a free pass. The riders testifying in support of the bill belonged to a group known as ABATE, or A Brotherhood Against Totalitarian Enactments.

"Cars and trucks have no problem with it, but motorcycles have always been an issue," Crawford County Sheriff's Deputy Bob Peters said, according to Fox 14. "You may be on a section or roadway where you may wait for five minutes and there may not be other traffic along to trigger the sensor."

Though Peters supported the bill, it was opposed by Kansas police organizations that want their officers, not motorcycle riders, to have the discretion. One Republican lawmaker unsuccessfully tried to strip the red-light provision, saying, "I see no skeletal remains of motorcyclists sitting at red lights that never change," according to The Wichita Eagle.

The bill passed the House Tuesday as part of a broader road safety package. The other component in the package would prohibit local jurisdictions from imposing extra fines on drivers for seat-belt violations. The bill kept the statewide fine at $5 -- that would eventually rise to $10 or $60 depending on the severity of the violation.

The language in the motorcycle bill also covered bicycle riders.
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Old 02-23-2011, 02:45 PM   #2
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In Kansas.. Do people live in Kansas?
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there nothing more frustrating than sitting at a light that refuses to change
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:10 PM   #4
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there nothing more frustrating than sitting at a light that refuses to change
I've been there... I always just ran the red
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I've been there... I always just ran the red
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:15 PM   #6
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Rezin (from CF/Tricktape at the time) used to sell these large magnets that you could put on your frame that made light sensor loops pick you up properly.

In reality, it was nothing more than the large square magnet you can buy at the Radio Shack. I recognized it immediately, as I happened to have some. I stuck one on my frame, and never again had to wait.
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:17 PM   #7
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Rezin (from CF/Tricktape at the time) used to sell these large magnets that you could put on your frame that made light sensor loops pick you up properly.

In reality, it was nothing more than the large square magnet you can buy at the Radio Shack. I recognized it immediately, as I happened to have some. I stuck one on my frame, and never again had to wait.
Could you find it ( part number ) again at Radio Shack? There is one light that won't change until a heavy vehicle trips the buried wired. I bought a magnet off enay, added two cow magnets and I still end up running the red light.

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One Republican lawmaker unsuccessfully tried to strip the red-light provision, saying, "I see no skeletal remains of motorcyclists sitting at red lights that never change," according to The Wichita Eagle.
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No shit. Because we don't sit there and wait forever, dumbass. We make sure nothing is coming, then we just go, even though the light stays red. We want this law because we don't want to get a ticket for running a red light that never fucking changes to green for us.
I was going to say the same thing.

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Could you find it ( part number ) again at Radio Shack? There is one light that won't change until a heavy vehicle trips the buried wired. I bought a magnet off enay, added two cow magnets and I still end up running the red light.
I'm pretty sure a lot of the lights around my area have a buried wire and just won't trip until something heavy crosses it. You should see the look on the drivers face behind me if I start moving up and motioning them to pull up. They just don't get it... until the light never f-ing changes.
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I'm pretty sure a lot of the lights around my area have a buried wire and just won't trip until something heavy crosses it. You should see the look on the drivers face behind me if I start moving up and motioning them to pull up. They just don't get it... until the light never f-ing changes.
The light I mentioned, I pull ahead of the white line so the idiots in the car behind will actually cross/trigger the wire to activate the light.

I've already got off the cycle and told the idiot to pull up to trip the light or prepare to wait until dark.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:22 PM   #10
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Yeah just read this..... I saw there was some static from the police union that wanted the officers to have the say in "what's a justifiable wait" -- as if we, as riders, needed another reason to have cops try to pull us over and deem what's acceptable.... so many can't make an unbiased decision when it comes to bikes....
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