Yet another DMG rant...

Mrs. Colleen · 06-12-2009, 11:32 PM

Why do riders have to go into the pits after they crash...even if their bikes run fine?!

Was this an issue before...or just another stupid change DMG has forced upon AMA?

Amber Lamps · 06-12-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Colleen

Why do riders have to go into the pits after they crash...even if their bikes run fine?!

Was this an issue before...or just another stupid change DMG has forced upon AMA?

I don't know! I think it's something from NASCAR.

A few guys have probably come back from this bullshit to finish "okay" by the end of the race but I doubt it's very often. If I were the racers, I'd protest this rule by quitting every time I crash. I'd go to the pits and park my bike.

was92v · 06-13-2009, 09:07 AM

When I raced WERA you had to re-tech the bike if the handle bar hits the ground. It is a safety thing to make sure you are not leaking something that will crash someone else, or decide to continue on an unsafe machine. It is a way for for a new set of eyes to look things over.

Amber Lamps · 06-13-2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by was92v

When I raced WERA you had to re-tech the bike if the handle bar hits the ground. It is a safety thing to make sure you are not leaking something that will crash someone else, or decide to continue on an unsafe machine. It is a way for for a new set of eyes to look things over.

Oh I understand the principle, but you must admit that they've seemed to survive all these years without such a rule in place. I think that once you start racing at that level, you can be expected to make better decisions than someone club racing in WERA. No offense. Quite frankly, they may as well institute a "quit" or "non continuance" rule.

Mrs. Colleen · 06-13-2009, 11:56 AM

Yeah...I get the idea too. Just wondering if it was actually a problem before.

shmike · 06-13-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

Oh I understand the principle, but you must admit that they've seemed to survive all these years without such a rule in place. I think that once you start racing at that level, you can be expected to make better decisions than someone club racing in WERA. No offense. Quite frankly, they may as well institute a "quit" or "non continuance" rule.

I'm not sure if we have that rule in CCS but if so, it isn't enforced.

In a wet race least year a guy went down on the warm up lap. He picked up the bike, gridded and went on to a podium finish.

A buddy of mine went down at Daytona and still managed a top 15.

Amber Lamps · 06-13-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shmike

I'm not sure if we have that rule in CCS but if so, it isn't enforced.

In a wet race least year a guy went down on the warm up lap. He picked up the bike, gridded and went on to a podium finish.

A buddy of mine went down at Daytona and still managed a top 15.

Even after the ride through and tech inspection? Wow!

was92v · 06-13-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by shmike

I'm not sure if we have that rule in CCS but if so, it isn't enforced.

In a wet race least year a guy went down on the warm up lap. He picked up the bike, gridded and went on to a podium finish.

A buddy of mine went down at Daytona and still managed a top 15.

Daytona is a long race. Crash in a sprint race and you may as well pack it in.

was92v · 06-13-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

Oh I understand the principle, but you must admit that they've seemed to survive all these years without such a rule in place. I think that once you start racing at that level, you can be expected to make better decisions than someone club racing in WERA. No offense. Quite frankly, they may as well institute a "quit" or "non continuance" rule.

Yeah, I mean except for maybe a couple of WERA racers over the years, I'm sure the rest aren't AMA caliber. I mean who's even heard of any WERA racers except for maybe Kevin Schwantz or Scott Russell or Kurt Hall or Trey Batey or Grant Lopez or Nicky & Tommy Hayden or Rich Oliver or .. well, the rest of a very long list.

Amber Lamps · 06-13-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by was92v

Yeah, I mean except for maybe a couple of WERA racers over the years, I'm sure the rest aren't AMA caliber. I mean who's even heard of any WERA racers except for maybe Kevin Schwantz or Scott Russell or Kurt Hall or Trey Batey or Grant Lopez or Nicky & Tommy Hayden or Rich Oliver or .. well, the rest of a very long list.

Okay did I inadvertently offend someone yet again? I don't care who you eventually grew up to be, at one time every one of those guys were "snot nosed newbies" and may not have had the frame of mind to know when to quit. That's all. Yeesh. It's getting that I can't pick up a keyboard without someone getting offended.

In "entry level" racing, I can see some 16 year old kid with more balls than brains, spreading oil all over the track after a crash. Obviously, you have to make a rule that covers the entire class... Simple.

Fuck, I can't even figure out if you're for it or against it. Are you saying that because WERA has such a rule, that it's appropriate for the AMA to have it too? Maybe it should be standard in MotoGp as well...

06-13-2009, 09:07 AM	#3
was92v Nowhere Man Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 558	When I raced WERA you had to re-tech the bike if the handle bar hits the ground. It is a safety thing to make sure you are not leaking something that will crash someone else, or decide to continue on an unsafe machine. It is a way for for a new set of eyes to look things over.