clutch started slipping today - Page 2

'73 H1 Triple · 07-14-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

When was the last time you replaced the springs?

Quote:

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Hey that's a thought, maybe you had a spring break? hell, or the clutch basket, a plate, etc... hmmm....

They are OEM springs.

I was just reading on the ZRXoa forum and somebody had a similar problem that was the clutch actuator. He was able to look at the clutch plates move thru the oil fill.

I'm back to the garage

pauldun170 · 07-14-2009, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by '73 H1 Triple

They are OEM springs.

I was just reading on the ZRXoa forum and somebody had a similar problem that was the clutch actuator. He was able to look at the clutch plates move thru the oil fill.

I'm back to the garage

If they are the original springs you may want replace em if you are going to be in there and it turns out the you need to the replace clutch

General rule I follow
Aftermarket springs
OEM plates

My clutch started to go at about 25K but I nipped it in the butt at the first sign of slippage

BobTheBiker · 07-14-2009, 09:30 PM

Kawi is notorious for using crappy springs, replace em with stiffer springs and service the actuator mechanism. is likely that your actuator isn working rght.

'73 H1 Triple · 07-14-2009, 11:30 PM

Thank you everyone for your suggestions.

I messed with it some more and do believe it's the actuator as it just doesn't feel right.

I found an actuator on ebay which I purchased. The seller is in NY, I hope he ships quickly.

Jeff

Gas Man · 07-15-2009, 12:37 AM

I'm betting on the hydrolic side of the clutch actuator. Either the fluid, air, or the hydrolic just took a shit. I doubt its the clutch pack itself. But that would be easy to check... pull the plates and measure thickness to spec.

Fleck750 · 07-15-2009, 12:57 AM

Are the fiber plates OEM? If so, replace. Being that it's 16 yrs old, you may be right on the actuator and springs.

No Worries · 07-15-2009, 10:46 PM

If the actuator is the slave cylinder, I think that is the problem.

'73 H1 Triple · 07-15-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by No Worries

If the actuator is the slave cylinder, I think that is the problem.

The hydraulic device that pushes on the rod to work the clutch.

I'll see if the kawa dealer close to work has the seal on friday. If so I'll grab one and see if I can get it working.

One day and I'm having two wheel withdrawl

'73 H1 Triple · 07-19-2009, 12:32 PM

Got my clutch actuator yesterday (ebay) and although it worked just fine, I still had slippage.

Just pulled the clutch cover off, removed the six springs and the outer clutch hub and heard "CLINK" in the oil drain pan.

Turns out the the leaf spring in the hub was in three pieces.
https://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmo.../m4673sch59264
item#39130

Now I have to find a 36mm socket to remove the nut to check if I have to purchase any other parts.

At least it wasn't total catastrophic failure

Jeff

'73 H1 Triple · 07-19-2009, 09:07 PM

Here's what broke, the leaf spring that holds the inner clutch hub.

If the spring was there, it would be behind the aluminum colored nut holding the inner clutch hub back.

I ordered my $10 leaf spring from BikeBandit.com since the dealer isn't open until tuesday. I also got a discount for being an AMA member

Jeff

07-15-2009, 12:37 AM	#15
Gas Man Trip's Assistant Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Imported from Detroit Moto: 2009 HD Street Classic Posts: 12,149	I'm betting on the hydrolic side of the clutch actuator. Either the fluid, air, or the hydrolic just took a shit. I doubt its the clutch pack itself. But that would be easy to check... pull the plates and measure thickness to spec. __________________ -Chris "Why pay somebody else to fuck up your bike?" Run Amsoil Product

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07-14-2009, 09:30 PM	#13
BobTheBiker too much time on my hands Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: the northern district of god damn Moto: 01 ZX6R, looking for more now. Posts: 1,802	Kawi is notorious for using crappy springs, replace em with stiffer springs and service the actuator mechanism. is likely that your actuator isn working rght.

07-14-2009, 11:30 PM	#14
'73 H1 Triple restorer of the original Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Zionsville,PA Moto: '93 ZR1100 &'73 Kawasaki H1 500 Posts: 1,331	Thank you everyone for your suggestions. I messed with it some more and do believe it's the actuator as it just doesn't feel right. I found an actuator on ebay which I purchased. The seller is in NY, I hope he ships quickly. Jeff

07-15-2009, 12:57 AM	#16
Fleck750 Spiker bike Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: KCK Moto: KZ750 Posts: 1,629	Are the fiber plates OEM? If so, replace. Being that it's 16 yrs old, you may be right on the actuator and springs.

07-15-2009, 10:46 PM	#17
No Worries Keyboard Racer Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mile High City Moto: Old Superbikes Posts: 1,016	If the actuator is the slave cylinder, I think that is the problem.

07-19-2009, 12:32 PM	#19
'73 H1 Triple restorer of the original Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Zionsville,PA Moto: '93 ZR1100 &'73 Kawasaki H1 500 Posts: 1,331	Got my clutch actuator yesterday (ebay) and although it worked just fine, I still had slippage. Just pulled the clutch cover off, removed the six springs and the outer clutch hub and heard "CLINK" in the oil drain pan. Turns out the the leaf spring in the hub was in three pieces. https://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmo.../m4673sch59264 item#39130 Now I have to find a 36mm socket to remove the nut to check if I have to purchase any other parts. At least it wasn't total catastrophic failure Jeff

07-19-2009, 09:07 PM	#20
'73 H1 Triple restorer of the original Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Zionsville,PA Moto: '93 ZR1100 &'73 Kawasaki H1 500 Posts: 1,331	Here's what broke, the leaf spring that holds the inner clutch hub. If the spring was there, it would be behind the aluminum colored nut holding the inner clutch hub back. I ordered my $10 leaf spring from BikeBandit.com since the dealer isn't open until tuesday. I also got a discount for being an AMA member Jeff