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[Akilldema]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

No you can't. Remember alot of those "pros" are on insulin otherwise they wouldn't be eating 8k cals a day.

Ok, dude exactly WTF are you talking about? How would taking insulin and eating a shitload of food contribute to being lean???? Pure nonsense.

[Akilldema]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Why yogurt? And wtf...a granola bar?

Take 2 scoops of whey, handful of mixed frozen fruit and 1 cup of ground oats in a blender and drink it.

Again, depending on the choice of granola bar, I fail to see anything wrong with this. A little low on protein for me, I'd add some egg whites in, but aside from that.. what's the problem?

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Akilldema

I rely on the kind of science that gets printed in books, not whatever some no name skinny guy wrote in Muscle and Fitness this month. Am I telling anyone here to eat 800g of carbs a day? No. I fail to see how taking steroids is going to make someone's body process food in a completely different way. Obviously there is a change, hence the higher calories. The reason I mention pros is because they do things because they work. Those diet techniques can still carry over to people who are natural. BTW a healthy adult male makes 70-120mg of test a week, not 400.

I'm just saying to take what pros tell you with a grain of salt. If anyone who is here not enhanced ate what they ate, they would be pretty plump and not in the good way.

Also I was speaking of nominalized blood total test levels.

[Akilldema]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

I'm just saying to take what pros tell you with a grain of salt.

I agree with that. A lot of what you read by "pros" is ghost written by someone and it does take a decent amount of prior knowledge and common sense to determine what can be used and what can't.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Akilldema

I agree with that. A lot of what you read by "pros" is ghost written by someone and it does take a decent amount of prior knowledge and common sense to determine what can be used and what can't.

Also as you know lifting and eating have theories from one end of the spectrum to the other. I do things that I read that make logical sense.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Akilldema

Ok, dude exactly WTF are you talking about? How would taking insulin and eating a shitload of food contribute to being lean???? Pure nonsense.

I was talking about eating 8k cals a day..not getting lean. We changed subjects a little.

[Akilldema]

Slin doesn't really factor into the eating 8k cals a day, not much at least. It just forces nutrients into cells, so there are select times when you can use it. Steroids definitely play a larger role in the abundance of calories.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Akilldema

Again, depending on the choice of granola bar, I fail to see anything wrong with this. A little low on protein for me, I'd add some egg whites in, but aside from that.. what's the problem?

Low on protein, but why not oats? Granola bars have to loaded with crap to make them taste somewhat decent.

[Akilldema]

Don't get me wrong: I eat steel cut oats or sometimes cereal in the morning for carbs. But there are some decent granola bars. I do try to use real food over whey whenever possible. I still drink 3-4 protein shakes on workout days though

[Homeslice]

I pour oats into my mouth raw.......lol. Too lazy to cook them.