arrested for anti-obama sign

[t-homo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppBZM...layer_embedded

[Particle Man]

Don't tase me, bro!

[the chi]

Even if I agree with the guy, he needs to go about it better. Too antagonistic. Did it really take 2 300lb men to lay on him??

[Avatard]

Free speech is free speech. It includes stupid speech, it even includes offensive speech.

That 300# fat big piece of shit coward put all his weight on that old man's shoulder.

If I was there, he'd have gotten a kick in the face, and I'd be the poor old man's fucking cellmate, even though I couldn't disagree with his position more.



Disgusting. I can't believe no one came to his defense.

[101lifts2]

I'd sue the security people myself. The guy did nothing wrong...and what are the cops going to charge this guy with anyway? Holding an Anti-Obama sign? WTF

This is def. gonna hit Fox News...can't wait.

Fucking pigs.

[dReWpY]

that pisses me off, thats anti american flat out

[pauldun170]

Not enough information.
Video starts off with guy screaming.
Was he screaming at other people prior? Holding the sign and protesting is one thing, screaming at random people is another.

This "whatever it is" has private security.
Doesn't it mean its a privately sanctioned fair or something?
If the organizers have paid for use of the land and have hired private security doesn't it mean they have the right to control who gets to stay and who gets to go?

I'm all for free speech, but if the organizers of a private event want you out because you are being an ass then why shouldn't they have the right to escort you to the area that they are not paying for?

[pauldun170]

Sidney Hill is familiar to local residents as the gentleman who spends most of his days on the corner of the Palmer-Wasilla and Glenn highways with his large “Impeach Obama” sign. When he brought that banner to the first day of the fair, he drew a crowd.

http://www.frontiersman.com/articles...2107414412.txt

Fair officials say Sidney Hill drew complaints Thursday that he was disrupting fair entertainment.

http://newsminer.com/bookmark/930684...ska-State-Fair

Police eventually arrested the man and took him away after they discovered that Hill was carrying a loaded weapon in violation of fair rules. The fair’s Dean Phipps says the fairgrounds are private property, and visitors are subject to those rules.

http://www.ktuu.com/news/ktuu-crime-...,2668811.story


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“The part that’s missing from this and from the video is that people don’t start shooting video until (a situation) has progressed awhile,” Phipps said. “When (security) went over to talk to him, he’s an excitable guy, and you can see that in the video. It wasn’t a safe place to protest, it wasn’t an appropriate way to do it.”

Contrary to what many believe, the Alaska State Fairgrounds is private property and bringing firearms into the grounds “is not allowed,” Remaley said. “It’s just like going to Carrs or Fred Meyer, it’s private property. ... They apparently wanted him to leave, he wasn’t going for that.”

On the video, Hill holds the large banner that reads “LaRouche Says Impeach Obama Now” and verbally confronts fair security.

“I have free damn speech, you leave me the hell alone,” he yells, adding at one point, “you’re a worthless hippy who doesn’t care about anything.”

As the crowd around him grows, Hill proclaims that, “We have free speech in America. I’m not backing down. ... I know my rights.”

When security personnel discovered Hill had a handgun on him, “that’s when the whole thing changed,” Phipps said. “All the supporters went away when they saw there was a gun.”

As Hill is on the ground, an off-duty Alaska State Trooper also intervened to help with crowd control, Phipps said.

“That’s when the off-duty trooper stepped in,” he said. “He felt that, at that point, it was a public safety issue because he was inciting people to come help him.”

For Valley residents, Hill is a familiar figure in downtown Palmer holding the same sign. For the most part, he’s a peaceful protester, Remaley said.

“We’ve had complaints about him yelling at people in traffic or encroaching on traffic with his sign,” he said. When Palmer police have responded, Hill has always complied and is within his rights to protest.

But at the Alaska State Fairgrounds, which is private property, the fair has the right to ask political protesters to leave. It’s like a public school, where school property is owned by a school district, he said. If Hill or anyone were to show up and start protesting, they’d either need permission or leave if asked.

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Not enough information.
Video starts off with guy screaming.
Was he screaming at other people prior? Holding the sign and protesting is one thing, screaming at random people is another.

This "whatever it is" has private security.
Doesn't it mean its a privately sanctioned fair or something?
If the organizers have paid for use of the land and have hired private security doesn't it mean they have the right to control who gets to stay and who gets to go?

I'm all for free speech, but if the organizers of a private event want you out because you are being an ass then why shouldn't they have the right to escort you to the area that they are not paying for?

Observe and report.

Private security.

What they did instead was assault a crippled war veteran, and senior citizen.

Again, if I was there, I would have been arrested too, but the fat fucking prick on top of the old man would have been down at least 4-5 teeth, and my foot would hurt.

[the chi]

I like how the news articles are all over the fact that he had a weapon, but we dont once see it, or him brandishing it in the video, yet they took him down supposedly because of said gun...