Child support laws need a serious overhaul

Captain Morgan · 03-08-2010, 06:39 PM

edit: I was posting because numbers were crazy in calculations, but it appears the website fucked up and didn't input some things into the calculation.

However, I still think it's complete BS that a father who BEGS to have his child more often is simply told no, then told he has to pay more because he doesn't see the child often enough. It's like you get punished, then you get punished again for getting punished in the first place.

Rangerscott · 03-08-2010, 08:53 PM

Males get the BIG stick up the shaft when it comes to divorce and child support.

Here's to staying un-married and childless.

azoomm · 03-08-2010, 08:58 PM

As someone that just went through another round in court, I would agree that Child Support in general needs to be updated. They are removed from the court in many aspects and runs as an independant agency. When there is an issue on either side - it is generally met with a shrug and a "oh well, that's just the system, check back in a few WEEKS." In this age of technology, that is NOT the right answer.

Apoc · 03-08-2010, 09:07 PM

The courts are sickeningly biased to women. As long as both parents are fit, custody should be 50/50.

My uncles wife got a visit from cops over custody, to serve her papers, as she suddenly decided he couldn't see his kids anymore. And while he has his faults, he's a great dad.

It doesnt occur to her that kids arent pawns, and she doesnt own them.

Rangerscott · 03-08-2010, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoc

The courts are sickeningly biased to women. As long as both parents are fit, custody should be 50/50.

My uncles wife got a visit from cops over custody, to serve her papers, as she suddenly decided he couldn't see his kids anymore. And while he has his faults, he's a great dad.

It doesnt occur to her that kids arent pawns, and she doesnt own them.

Hey hey. She needs them so she can claim them as dependents. Don't you know anything about working the system?

Captain Morgan · 03-08-2010, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Apoc

The courts are sickeningly biased to women. As long as both parents are fit, custody should be 50/50.

My uncles wife got a visit from cops over custody, to serve her papers, as she suddenly decided he couldn't see his kids anymore. And while he has his faults, he's a great dad.

It doesnt occur to her that kids arent pawns, and she doesnt own them.

Going through that issue right now. My ex seems to think that she should have my daughter more than I do. Her reasoning...she has a bond with my daughter and it makes her feel bad if she doesn't have her a lot. I told her I'm not asking for more time than her, I'm just asking for 50/50. However, half is not fair to her. Fair would be if she has my daughter more than I have her. And fair would mean that I give up extra time so my ex has time to take my daughther to see her grandparents more often. It's fucking bullshit and nothing short of bullshit.

azoomm · 03-08-2010, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Morgan

Going through that issue right now. My ex seems to think that she should have my daughter more than I do. Her reasoning...she has a bond with my daughter and it makes her feel bad if she doesn't have her a lot. I told her I'm not asking for more time than her, I'm just asking for 50/50. However, half is not fair to her. Fair would be if she has my daughter more than I have her. And fair would mean that I give up extra time so my ex has time to take my daughther to see her grandparents more often. It's fucking bullshit and nothing short of bullshit.

Ask the court for a Guardian ad litem. This would entail taking your daughter to a child therapist that would then testify to the court how the CHILD should be represented.

Usually they ask to see the child on a few occassions - once brought by each parent, then separately if other children are involved in the home(s).

My ex and I have shared custody. I don't like him [if I did we would probably still be married]. But, he is important my daughters. I wouldn't rob THEM of that.

Papa_Complex · 03-08-2010, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by azoomm

Ask the court for a Guardian ad litem. This would entail taking your daughter to a child therapist that would then testify to the court how the CHILD should be represented.

Usually they ask to see the child on a few occassions - once brought by each parent, then separately if other children are involved in the home(s).

My ex and I have shared custody. I don't like him [if I did we would probably still be married]. But, he is important my daughters. I wouldn't rob THEM of that.

That's excellent advice. Parents tend to forget what the child wants in these situations. Giving the child representation helps to keep both sides honest.

Captain Morgan · 03-08-2010, 11:19 PM

Thanks for the advice. Hopefully itn never has to come to that. I would hate to have my daughter be put in the middle at all. I'm just asking for half time with her. Yes, I want more than that, but I understand how important it is for her to have both parents in her life equally. Her mom does not seem to get that. Another one of her stupid ass arguments was that she spent more time with her mom, so my daughter should be able to spend more time with her. What the fuck kind of logic is that? She still has not given me a logical explanation why 50/50 is not fair.

azoomm · 03-08-2010, 11:26 PM

I'm telling you this so you can start that request now. This is how I kept my children out of a courtroom and away from lawyers and judges. No child should ever be put in front of parents and told to choose. This gives them a voice.

It also puts her in a position to prove why 50/50 won't work.

http://www.fathering.org/

03-08-2010, 06:39 PM	#1
Captain Morgan Let's do another U-turn Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Indiana Moto: 2009 V-Strom Posts: 3,816	Child support laws need a serious overhaul edit: I was posting because numbers were crazy in calculations, but it appears the website fucked up and didn't input some things into the calculation. However, I still think it's complete BS that a father who BEGS to have his child more often is simply told no, then told he has to pay more because he doesn't see the child often enough. It's like you get punished, then you get punished again for getting punished in the first place. Last edited by Captain Morgan; 03-08-2010 at 07:22 PM..

03-08-2010, 08:58 PM	#3
azoomm moderator chick Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hill Country TX Moto: Pasta Rockets Posts: 8,917	As someone that just went through another round in court, I would agree that Child Support in general needs to be updated. They are removed from the court in many aspects and runs as an independant agency. When there is an issue on either side - it is generally met with a shrug and a "oh well, that's just the system, check back in a few WEEKS." In this age of technology, that is NOT the right answer. __________________ We have enough youth. How about a fountain of "smart"? Come Play at the Track!! http://www.elitetrackdays.com

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Apoc For Science. You Monster. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Canada Moto: '08 HD FLSTSB Posts: 3,546	The courts are sickeningly biased to women. As long as both parents are fit, custody should be 50/50. My uncles wife got a visit from cops over custody, to serve her papers, as she suddenly decided he couldn't see his kids anymore. And while he has his faults, he's a great dad. It doesnt occur to her that kids arent pawns, and she doesnt own them. __________________ Android OS causes gay. Dont let your child use Android (unless she's a hot female). And dont let your babies grow up to be cowboys, either.

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03-08-2010, 08:53 PM	#2
Rangerscott Viff6N Mutated Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Moto: '01 Honda VFR 800 & '09 ER-6N Posts: 8,704	Males get the BIG stick up the shaft when it comes to divorce and child support. Here's to staying un-married and childless.

03-08-2010, 11:19 PM	#9
Captain Morgan Let's do another U-turn Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Indiana Moto: 2009 V-Strom Posts: 3,816	Thanks for the advice. Hopefully itn never has to come to that. I would hate to have my daughter be put in the middle at all. I'm just asking for half time with her. Yes, I want more than that, but I understand how important it is for her to have both parents in her life equally. Her mom does not seem to get that. Another one of her stupid ass arguments was that she spent more time with her mom, so my daughter should be able to spend more time with her. What the fuck kind of logic is that? She still has not given me a logical explanation why 50/50 is not fair.

03-08-2010, 11:26 PM	#10
azoomm moderator chick Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hill Country TX Moto: Pasta Rockets Posts: 8,917	I'm telling you this so you can start that request now. This is how I kept my children out of a courtroom and away from lawyers and judges. No child should ever be put in front of parents and told to choose. This gives them a voice. It also puts her in a position to prove why 50/50 won't work. http://www.fathering.org/