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Old 09-16-2010, 11:39 AM   #11
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With it that low, why doesn't he have you retake the blood test to be certain?
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Old 09-16-2010, 11:45 AM   #12
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With it that low, why doesn't he have you retake the blood test to be certain?
Don't know but I'm taking the Niacin now 500mg/day. That's 2500% of the RDA. I'll take it for a while (1-2 months) and have them retest.
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Old 09-16-2010, 04:44 PM   #13
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I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV...and on this forum.

Most doctors are functioning on old research, and worst yet, bad research.

It's a (very) long read, but here's the latest, straightest poop:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mer..._b_676817.html
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:46 PM   #14
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I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV...and on this forum.

Most doctors are functioning on old research, and worst yet, bad research.

It's a (very) long read, but here's the latest, straightest poop:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mer..._b_676817.html
actually, most of us reserve judgment until we have read multiple studies confirming something. we're also trained to critically read articles and publications.. we don't just jump up and down b/c we see a cleverly written, completely unsupported "article". if you look through the page you linked, he has NOT ONE footnote or reference to published articles. who in their right mind would write an article and have zero references? it's unheard of. it's all his own opinion. in my head, i'm screaming at him for being a bullshit artist.

i did see that he has a number of publications, but they are the most scattered group of articles about 100 different topics. no one is a an expert about so many things like that, and any research takes many many months (more like years) to complete, making me highly suspicious of his credentials to comment on any topic.
"Fluoride and Apoptosis: Trading Dental Caries for Cellular Death?"
"Premarital HIV Testing"
"Accuracy of Hair Analysis"

are you kidding me??


in addition, we know to look for things like THIS: http://products.mercola.com/

yeah, that's right: the guy you're following has his own line of products touting his philosophies. did you look through his website? not a single disclaimer. sorry, but any medical researcher worth a damn has a clear message at the beginning of any presentation they give that says something similar to "i have nothing to disclose" or "i disclose that i received a grant from company xyz for this research". or, in this guy's case, it would read something like "i make my own products that i will try to sell you based on the propaganda i am about to shove down your unwitting throat".

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But clinical trials conducted by heavily biased "researchers," advertisements and news stories carefully scripted to scare you into belief, highly polished corporate offices and corporate websites, and an extreme focus on whatever has the most profit potential - not lifesaving or life-enhancing potential - are not qualifications. They are scams.
holy hell, he may as well have written that about himself.

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Old 09-17-2010, 12:07 AM   #15
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actually, most of us reserve judgment until we have read multiple studies confirming something. we're also trained to critically read articles and publications.. we don't just jump up and down b/c we see a cleverly written, completely unsupported "article". if you look through the page you linked, he has NOT ONE footnote or reference to published articles. who in their right mind would write an article and have zero references? it's unheard of. .....
It's Avatard remember...he is impressed with words like "all", "most", "effective", in an article if it suits his views.

Cholesterol in the blood is one thing, but cholesterol does nothing if it doesn't have triglycerides to bind with.

What foods are you eating? Are you eating enough Omega 3 fats? Take 10 fish oil tabs a day IMO.
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Old 09-17-2010, 03:41 AM   #16
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It's Avatard remember...he is impressed with words like "all", "most", "effective", in an article if it suits his views.
actually, i like Avatard. he's just way off here.
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What specifically in the article do you disagree with, Dave?
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I went to have my "pushing 40" bloodwork last December. My "good cholesterol" was 65 and my "bad cholesterol" was 55. I eat lots of rice, chicken, pork and fish (not so much fish, since Dutch doesn't eat it) but not alot of veggies and not alot of red meat. I mostly use Olive oil in cooking and eat pasta like it's going out of style. I figured with all the bagels I ate the last couple of years I'd be a ticking time bomb, but no...apparently I'm just fine. I don't get it but if it's good news, why worry about it?
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actually, most of us reserve judgment until we have read multiple studies confirming something. we're also trained to critically read articles and publications.. we don't just jump up and down b/c we see a cleverly written, completely unsupported "article".
$200,000+ education, countless hours in libraries, and endless clinical rotations is no substitute for Wikipedia and Google.
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