who's at fault

RACER X · 01-07-2009, 07:44 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2UJUqq5MNQ

BobTheBiker · 01-07-2009, 07:52 AM

the cage is at fault for making him crash, but the biker is also at fault to an extent for having the (clearly) heated exchange with the cager that started it.

JoshuaTree · 01-07-2009, 08:02 AM

The motorcyclist IS at fault - he was the 'following vehicle', failed to maintain adequate distance and clearance from the vehicle he was overtaking. Not to mention not having the smarts enough to not put himself in a position to be hit after having a confrontation with a car driver.

The car driver is guilty of not stopping and rendering aid. Depending on the lane markings at the point of impact, he might be guilty of failing to signal a turn, but that's going to be about it.

As the title so aptly puts it - Road Rage. I guess the cruiser rider now has a better understanding of Newton's Third Law.

Corey · 01-07-2009, 08:10 AM

If it's florida, it's no fault.

BobTheBiker · 01-07-2009, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Corey

If it's florida, it's no fault.

you ever tested that law? the way the "no fault" thing works is whoever is in the rear, or has front end damage is at fault regardless. from personal experience.

Trip · 01-07-2009, 08:52 AM

Biker is definitely at fault. Following too closely.

Curb · 01-07-2009, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Corey

If it's florida, it's no fault.

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Originally Posted by BobTheBiker

you ever tested that law? the way the "no fault" thing works is whoever is in the rear, or has front end damage is at fault regardless. from personal experience.

i'm testing it right now. some lady cut across three lanes of traffic and i hit her on the left side of her car with the front of my bike and guess what...IT WAS HER FAULT

. she got the ticket and my lawyer says this is a no brainer...i win, even though i technically made contact with her with the front of my bike into the back of her car

Corey · 01-07-2009, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BobTheBiker

you ever tested that law? the way the "no fault" thing works is whoever is in the rear, or has front end damage is at fault regardless. from personal experience.

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Originally Posted by Curb

i'm testing it right now. some lady cut across three lanes of traffic and i hit her on the left side of her car with the front of my bike and guess what...IT WAS HER FAULT

. she got the ticket and my lawyer says this is a no brainer...i win, even though i technically made contact with her with the front of my bike into the back of her car

Good luck to the both of you. Dealing with the insurance end of it prior, I know the Florida laws sure as hell don't make it easy for anyone.

Mr Lefty · 01-07-2009, 09:57 AM

shit clicked cage... but it was the biker... the cage driver is a dick and needs his ass whooped... but the biker was at fault. I saw that brake check coming as soon as he pulled behind him.

azoomm · 01-07-2009, 10:14 AM

Biker, shouldn't have been that close.

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biker	19	67.86%
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01-07-2009, 07:44 AM	#1
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01-07-2009, 08:02 AM	#3
JoshuaTree DILLIGAF? Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Austin, Texas, USA, Earth, Sol, Western Spiral Arm, Milky Way Moto: 1993 K75SA Posts: 483	The motorcyclist IS at fault - he was the 'following vehicle', failed to maintain adequate distance and clearance from the vehicle he was overtaking. Not to mention not having the smarts enough to not put himself in a position to be hit after having a confrontation with a car driver. The car driver is guilty of not stopping and rendering aid. Depending on the lane markings at the point of impact, he might be guilty of failing to signal a turn, but that's going to be about it. As the title so aptly puts it - Road Rage. I guess the cruiser rider now has a better understanding of Newton's Third Law. __________________ "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" "Learn to do the counter-intuitive things that may one day save your ass..." "... Love Much, Laugh Often..." - Amanda Kay Corso (January 18, 1980 - April 15, 2008)

01-07-2009, 08:10 AM	#4
Corey AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Florida Moto: Not a damn thing Posts: 2,612	If it's florida, it's no fault. __________________ Half man, half horse, half motorcycle. All awesome. "Your game is shit, your company is shit. Activision ruined you! Activision ruined you." - Francis

01-07-2009, 10:14 AM	#10
azoomm moderator chick Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Hill Country TX Moto: Pasta Rockets Posts: 8,917	Biker, shouldn't have been that close. __________________ We have enough youth. How about a fountain of "smart"? Come Play at the Track!! http://www.elitetrackdays.com

01-07-2009, 07:52 AM	#2
BobTheBiker too much time on my hands Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: the northern district of god damn Moto: 01 ZX6R, looking for more now. Posts: 1,802	the cage is at fault for making him crash, but the biker is also at fault to an extent for having the (clearly) heated exchange with the cager that started it.

01-07-2009, 09:57 AM	#9
Mr Lefty TWFix Legend Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver CO Moto: 01 BMW F650GS Dakar Posts: 15,677	shit clicked cage... but it was the biker... the cage driver is a dick and needs his ass whooped... but the biker was at fault. I saw that brake check coming as soon as he pulled behind him.