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Old 11-27-2009, 02:59 AM   #41
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....I'm not saying large metro areas dont suffer from all the traffic in them, they do. But if you shut all the cars down it would clear up in a matter of days, not years. There have also been more health problems since they started using cats on vehicles that no one will admit to. Yes, carbon dioxide wasn't real fun to breath but it really isn't that dangerous, mostly an irritant. However carbon monoxide that is made by converters is poison to humans. But it's ok since it's saving the planet!

Three-way cats convert HC, NOx, CO and NMHC to H2O and CO2, not the other way around. HCs and COs are harmful to humans and NOx and NMHC are harmful to the ozone. Converters are a good thing as with fuel injection control, but when you start to regulate more stringent emissions, you end up polluting more due to producing more emission contrtol parts (see diesel exhaust fluid injection).
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Old 11-27-2009, 03:26 AM   #42
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Did the sun poles flip about a month ago ( these dome and glom) ha ha. when we all line up the uk will be on the equator and i dont like the sun .
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Old 11-27-2009, 04:21 AM   #43
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Because any twit can tell you that the sun eventually burns out...and that a cooling trend, not a warming one is what awaits this planet (and any other fucking one) in the long term.
Ah yes, something that will happen 5-6 billion years from now is what we should be worried about. Gotcha.

Especially since none of that will happen until AFTER the sun has gone red giant and incinerated all life on Earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun#Life_cycle
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Old 11-27-2009, 04:32 AM   #44
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Yeah, it's a wee bit far off (red giant phase)...to be sure. But to suggest a warming trend in the interim that is anything beyond a statistical blip 'till then is absurd.

Solar flares simply have far more to do with the Earth's statistical blips in warming (and cooling) than anything we can do here on the surface. We tend to make ourselves a bit too self-important. I'm with Carlin on this one; when it's all over, and humans are gone from this planet, the Earth will shake us off like a bad cold.
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Old 11-28-2009, 12:55 AM   #45
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Three-way cats convert HC, NOx, CO and NMHC to H2O and CO2, not the other way around. HCs and COs are harmful to humans and NOx and NMHC are harmful to the ozone. Converters are a good thing as with fuel injection control, but when you start to regulate more stringent emissions, you end up polluting more due to producing more emission contrtol parts (see diesel exhaust fluid injection).
Yeah, I get a little dyslexic at times, got it backwards
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Old 11-29-2009, 05:41 PM   #46
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It looks like things are continuing to get worse for the University of East Anglia. They are now admitting that they threw away most of their raw temperature data.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6936328.ece
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Old 11-29-2009, 06:41 PM   #47
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It looks like things are continuing to get worse for the University of East Anglia. They are now admitting that they threw away most of their raw temperature data.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6936328.ece
I bet Rupert Murdoch broke in himself and forced them to throw it away by threatning to kill kittens and babies.
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Old 12-03-2009, 10:49 AM   #48
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but when I was a kid there was a global cooling scare going on for a while. Scientists and "experts" were convinced that we were headed towards another ice age.
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:58 AM   #49
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Hmmmm.... I wonder if they found fossil evidence of SUVs as well....
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