Companies do NOT care...

[shmike]

Spun off from Kaneman's thread...

Originally Posted by Angee

Although I haven't posted, I'm watching this. Companies do NOT care. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get an attorney!

Originally Posted by Mudpuppy

Correction: Companies DO care - about the bottom line - profit that is, greenbacks. That is all they care about. That is the society / the world we live in and the failed system of profit, greed and corruption.. It never has worked and it never will work..

Originally Posted by AquaPython

wait... what?
what does not work, capitalism?
you got a better idea?

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Yes; regulated capitalism and good corporate citizenship. People shouldn't have to fight it out with their insurance companies, in cases where they clearly should be ponying up. As with this case, people are generally in a very bad emotional place when they NEED their insurance coverage. That the insurance company employees choose to make things tough for them, at such times, shows that they are somewhat less than human.

Your thoughts?

[udman]

This outta be fun

[Trip]

Should they care? They are there to make money, not cuddle you. We voted we didn't want caring companies a long time ago when we stopped paying for service and started purchasing everything at Walmart.

[smileyman]

People in general are only reliable to do whats right and good if they are somehow made to be accountable for their actions.

However in the vaccum of todays world, and in corporate business world there lies an opportunity to act outside acceptable behavior without responsibilty or accountability for those actions.

People can hide in the committees, the board rooms, and avoid blame for incredibly selfish and greedy behavior without even coming into contact with those affected by their decisions and policy. They wont even be called into question by their superiors unless profitability or performance take a dive.

So it's gloves off every man for himself out there, any promise of virtue is only a facade.

[shmike]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Yes; regulated capitalism and good corporate citizenship. People shouldn't have to fight it out with their insurance companies, in cases where they clearly should be ponying up. As with this case, people are generally in a very bad emotional place when they NEED their insurance coverage. That the insurance company employees choose to make things tough for them, at such times, shows that they are somewhat less than human.

We have regulated capitalism.

While I agree that people should not have to fight with their insurance companies to have legitimate bills paid, the company should also be expected (and allowed) to do their due diligence to make sure it was a covered loss. To be honest with you, I find it hard to believe that the insurance company is even involved at this point.

Regarding the companies do not care comments, I believe that those comments were made in regard to the ex's employer not her insurance carrier. I originally said she should get an attorney (I misread and assumed she had been fired). I no longer feel that that is necessary.

They are holding her job for her while she is away. What more should she expect? Should the company continue to pay her for not working?

While this tragic event is more assuredly going to cause a huge financial strain on the family, I'm not sure how that is the fault or responsibility of her employer?

[Kaneman]

Ugh. Where to begin?

[Kaneman]

Ok, here's my thing. If companies don't give a fuck about their employees then they shouldn't be able to pretend they do in order to better control their employees through bullshit propaganda.

For example, the company in question makes their employees wear cards that contain MB's Core Values: Honesty, Openness, Respect, etc. etc. etc....which is all complete bullshit.

Honesty is paramount.

[shmike]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Ok, here's my thing. If companies don't give a fuck about their employees then they shouldn't be able to pretend they do in order to better control their employees through bullshit propaganda.

For example, the company in question makes their employees wear cards that contain MB's Core Values: Honesty, Openness, Respect, etc. etc. etc....which is all complete bullshit.

Honesty is paramount.

Based on what I've read, I don't see where they have failed her or their values.

Shed some light, man...

[Angee]

Some of the most productive companies in the fortune 500 category are family-friendly and take care of their staff. Yahoo had an article on it awhile back. The summary? A happy employee is a productive employee. I wish I could find the story, but I'm too busy to search for it at the moment...

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by shmike

Based on what I've read, I don't see where they have failed her or their values.

Shed some light, man...

They're not paying her anymore. Both her kids were near death, in ICU, and despite getting assurances from a team leader, a group leader and an HR rep that she would get paid during her leave, they stopped paying her.

Now, when she calls HR they tell her to call the insurance company as they are no longer involved. I mean, these motherfuckers (Human Resources) have an entire area of the building off to themselves, they have 7 reps...yet they can't help you deal with THEIR insurance company.

Everytime she calls the insurance company they make her tell the story over again to a new rep, describe the children's injuries, tell them what she does all day, etc. etc. So the company that she has worked at for over 10 years is forcing her to deal with this all on her own instead of just fucking paying her. All they have to do is cut a check, its that simple, they can do it right out of the office...