The Hulkster would be proud - Page 3

Homeslice · 11-25-2010, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Particle Man

Evasion is only a felony because runners put others on the road at risk.

Not really, unless the cop gives pursuit.

And I don't see the need to toss your keys on the ground. I just shut the motor off and sit upright. If they still feel threatened by that, they can tell me to throw the keys on the ground or something, but so far I've never been asked to do anything at all, besides remove my helmet which is obvious.

Amber Lamps · 11-25-2010, 10:31 PM

7 miles? You all understand that represents maybe 5 minutes...

Captain Morgan · 11-26-2010, 12:48 AM

Lon, I'm not always on the side of cops. Some of them do some really fucked up shit. Like the ones shooting the dogs in the drug raid someone posted. And like the one that shot the guy in the back. However, I am on the cops side the majority of the time, but that's normally because the people they're chasing or trying to apprehend are doing some fucked up shit. Did this particular cop go a LITTLE overboard? Maybe a touch, but not so much that it should cause everybody to get their panties in a twist.

Amber Lamps · 11-26-2010, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Morgan

Lon, I'm not always on the side of cops. Some of them do some really fucked up shit. Like the ones shooting the dogs in the drug raid someone posted. And like the one that shot the guy in the back. However, I am on the cops side the majority of the time, but that's normally because the people they're chasing or trying to apprehend are doing some fucked up shit. Did this particular cop go a LITTLE overboard? Maybe a touch, but not so much that it should cause everybody to get their panties in a twist.

Yea but what if it were YOUR daughter on that bike? What if that was your bike that got knocked over? What if your kidneys had been damaged? Again, I understand that this kid "ran" for a whole 7 miles...wow...does that make it okay for the cops to tackle him without provocation? Some of these chases are a lot worse than this with the runner ramming his car into the cops or bystanders. Maybe if he had led the cops for hours and miles, he MIGHT deserve some roughing up but for a 5 minute "chase"?

Hydrant · 11-26-2010, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

Yea but what if it were YOUR daughter on that bike? What if that was your bike that got knocked over? What if your kidneys had been damaged? Again, I understand that this kid "ran" for a whole 7 miles...wow...does that make it okay for the cops to tackle him without provocation? Some of these chases are a lot worse than this with the runner ramming his car into the cops or bystanders. Maybe if he had led the cops for hours and miles, he MIGHT deserve some roughing up but for a 5 minute "chase"?

I would think in the eyes of the cops, a chase is a chase is a chase. He is evading, no other easier way to state it than that. As far as if that were my kids ( I don't have any but I'll reply the best I can) I'll sit here and say that yea it serves them right, but in reality I would probably be upset, with both the cops for the tackle and my kid for being a dumbass and running.

My thinking when it comes to police is what I would say, is probably somewhat old school. I haven't had a lot of police run in's but when I have, I've never had a problem. I give them respect, I don't expect to get out of tickets by being nice, but if it does then hey great.

Amber Lamps · 11-26-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrant

I would think in the eyes of the cops, a chase is a chase is a chase. He is evading, no other easier way to state it than that. As far as if that were my kids ( I don't have any but I'll reply the best I can) I'll sit here and say that yea it serves them right, but in reality I would probably be upset, with both the cops for the tackle and my kid for being a dumbass and running.

My thinking when it comes to police is what I would say, is probably somewhat old school. I haven't had a lot of police run in's but when I have, I've never had a problem. I give them respect, I don't expect to get out of tickets by being nice, but if it does then hey great.

I hear what you are saying and I am not excusing the kid for running but I still think that is ridiculous...

Okay, here's my similar story. Some of you have heard it before. I was out riding my 'Busa and clowning a little bit. I came up on an intersection in the hood, where there were a couple cops sitting in their cars chit/chatting and blocking most of the road. Of course, I could get through on my bike. As I passed them, I gave them a short burst of my Yosh race only, single exit exhaust and went on my way. Well, apparently "Starsky" didn't appreciate it and jumped into pursuit. I had gone maybe another 2 blocks when I noticed him behind me as a I made a left turn. So I completed my turn and stopped next to the curb to wait for him. With my bike turned off btw...

This dumbass blows through the stop sign and power slid his Crown Vic right into my bike knocking both it and me 10-15 feet. He gets out of his car with his gun drawn and starts screaming at me to show my hands while I'm laying on the ground with a jacked up wrist, a cracked rib and a 500 lb bike laying partially on top of me. Cagney, the female cop whom he was talking to at the intersection, shows up, assesses the situation, and pulls Mr Testosterone off to the side. Of course, they return with a somewhat different demeanor, help me up and call an amberlamps.

In true cop fashion, they tried to modify the story to make themselves look like heroes but unfortunately, for them. This was August and anyone with any hoodrat experience will tell you that the "porch monkeys" were out in force that afternoon. Which gave me an abundance of witnesses. Starsky was fired and Cagney was suspended for filing a false report. The city of Grand Rapids was "happy" to pay for the repairs on my bike, my medical bills and almost a month off work. I probably should have sued but I'm not that type.

Anyway, I could go on for pages with "bad cop" stories. I know that I have a history of turning "everything" into a race issue but honestly, I do believe that there are two distinct points of view when it comes to the police depending on where you live, for the residents AND the police. I can't tell you the number of times that I have personally been harassed or witnessed police harassment. It's a whole different scenario from living in the hood to living in the suburbs. In the 'burbs the police are your friends but in the hood...not so much.

Avatard · 11-26-2010, 07:57 AM

Detective Donut was just a tad over-enthusiastic with his Superman imitation.

Particle Man · 11-26-2010, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by tommymac

This will open a whol eother can of worms about weather or not they should pursue someone.

I know. I was stiring the pot for my own twisted entertainment

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Originally Posted by Avatard

Detective Donut was just a tad over-enthusiastic with his Superman imitation.

Detective Donut

Avatard · 11-26-2010, 08:40 AM

The video edit shown has the biker already stopped, a cruiser arriving to box him in even though he can be seen clearly shutting down...and then I counted nearly five seconds of him remaining dead still, before he's blindsided by Detective Danish.

Hydrant · 11-26-2010, 01:53 PM

I'll say you got me on that one.

I agree with you that enviroment does play a huuuuuge part on how police will react to a situation. They become callised to their enviroment and the people they deal with and then every situation becomes a repeat of a bad one the night before, which in reality is sad. It would be great if police would start everyday as a new day and let the past be the past, but you and I know that will never happen. Unfortunately.

11-26-2010, 07:57 AM	#7
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	Detective Donut was just a tad over-enthusiastic with his Superman imitation. __________________ Insert free thought here.

11-26-2010, 08:40 AM	#9
Avatard Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Here to integrity Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja Posts: 7,482	The video edit shown has the biker already stopped, a cruiser arriving to box him in even though he can be seen clearly shutting down...and then I counted nearly five seconds of him remaining dead still, before he's blindsided by Detective Danish. __________________ Insert free thought here.

11-26-2010, 01:53 PM	#10
Hydrant WERA Yellow Plate Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Moto: 2003 Suzuki TL1000R, 2002 Honda CBR 600 F4i Posts: 660	I'll say you got me on that one. I agree with you that enviroment does play a huuuuuge part on how police will react to a situation. They become callised to their enviroment and the people they deal with and then every situation becomes a repeat of a bad one the night before, which in reality is sad. It would be great if police would start everyday as a new day and let the past be the past, but you and I know that will never happen. Unfortunately. __________________

11-25-2010, 10:31 PM	#2
Amber Lamps Moto GP Star Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 14,556	7 miles? You all understand that represents maybe 5 minutes...

11-26-2010, 12:48 AM	#3
Captain Morgan Let's do another U-turn Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Indiana Moto: 2009 V-Strom Posts: 3,816	Lon, I'm not always on the side of cops. Some of them do some really fucked up shit. Like the ones shooting the dogs in the drug raid someone posted. And like the one that shot the guy in the back. However, I am on the cops side the majority of the time, but that's normally because the people they're chasing or trying to apprehend are doing some fucked up shit. Did this particular cop go a LITTLE overboard? Maybe a touch, but not so much that it should cause everybody to get their panties in a twist.