Go Back   Two Wheel Fix > General > Cage Hell > Cage Tech

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-21-2011, 10:54 PM   #21
G-Rex
Where to next?
 
G-Rex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: OK to the C
Moto: TL1000R, Hayabusa, R1150RT
Posts: 1,333
Default

Well, I wish you luck.

I'm not one to trust liquid metal, JB Weld, etc. on things like cranks. I'd be dropping the oil pan to swap in another crank, but that's just me.

Hopefully everything works good when you get it all put back together. Otherwise, you'll be going through most of this work again.
__________________
G-Rex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2011, 11:24 PM   #22
pauldun170
Serious Business
 
pauldun170's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: New York
Moto: 1993 ZX-11 2008 CBR1000rr
Posts: 9,723
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Rex View Post
Well, I wish you luck.

I'm not one to trust liquid metal, JB Weld, etc. on things like cranks. I'd be dropping the oil pan to swap in another crank, but that's just me.

Hopefully everything works good when you get it all put back together. Otherwise, you'll be going through most of this work again.
that
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave View Post
feed your dogs root beer it will make them grow large and then you can ride them and pet the motorcycle while drinking root beer
pauldun170 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2011, 11:29 PM   #23
derf
token jewboy
 
derf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Moto: CBR 900, KLR ugly ass duckling, Gas Man
Posts: 10,799
Default

If you are intent on saving the crank you could try to weld it and have the keyway machined out again, but even that would probably either deform the crank, weaken it or both, and you would have to remove it from the block or destroy the seals. Either way you really need to repair it correctly. The liquid metal or JB weld will last a few miles, but either way it will start to wear pretty fast pretty soon
__________________
derf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2011, 11:33 PM   #24
Triple
uncomfortably numb
 
Triple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: JOH-JAH!
Moto: WR250R & Bonneville
Posts: 409
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Rex View Post
I'm not one to trust liquid metal, JB Weld, etc. on things like cranks. I'd be dropping the oil pan to swap in another crank, but that's just me.
This stuff isn't like cheap Walmart JB Weld. It's expensive, hard to find, and many Miata owners have used it with much success. I don't understand why it won't harden, however.

You aren't really relying on the liquid metal; for the most part, it's just there to keep things in place during reassembly. They key is keeping the whole assembly properly torqued down. Neglecting that allows the crank bolt to back out and the cog/pulley to shift on the crank nose.

Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Rex View Post
Hopefully everything works good when you get it all put back together. Otherwise, you'll be going through most of this work again.
The hell I will. If this doesn't work, I'll either sell it as a non-running roller or replace the engine with a warrantied, remanufactured unit. Dropping/replacing the crank can cost as much as replacing the entire long block.
Triple is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2011, 01:08 AM   #25
azoomm
moderator chick

 
azoomm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Hill Country TX
Moto: Pasta Rockets
Posts: 8,917
Default

Yeah, Loctite 660 doesn't fuck around. They now sponsor Racing for our Heros - they did a demo of that stuff for us. Incredible.
__________________
We have enough youth. How about a fountain of "smart"?

Come Play at the Track!!

http://www.elitetrackdays.com
azoomm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2011, 10:53 AM   #26
pauldun170
Serious Business
 
pauldun170's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: New York
Moto: 1993 ZX-11 2008 CBR1000rr
Posts: 9,723
Default

http://www.miata.net/garage/hsue/LoctiteCrank1.html
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave View Post
feed your dogs root beer it will make them grow large and then you can ride them and pet the motorcycle while drinking root beer
pauldun170 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2011, 08:52 PM   #27
101lifts2
WSB Champion
 
101lifts2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Anaheim, CA
Moto: 2009 Kawi ZX6R
Posts: 5,570
Default

Looks like you fucked up the front cover housing. Better hope that crank seal doesn't leak.
__________________
Train Hard

Ron Paul - 2012

Mark of Excellence
GM
101lifts2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2011, 12:03 AM   #28
Triple
uncomfortably numb
 
Triple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: JOH-JAH!
Moto: WR250R & Bonneville
Posts: 409
Default

Let's brainstorm, again.

I finally got the car running last weekend. It stuttered a bit as it choked down the last bit of old gas sitting in the lines (I drained the tank, installed a new fuel filter, and re-filled with fresh, ZERO-ETHANOL fuel), but it now idles smoothly and responds normally to throttle inputs.

One problem: use of the power windows, headlights, wipers, etc causes the engine to stumble. This was an issue before I parked the car two years ago, too, only then it would cause the alternator belt to scream as well. I've since installed a new alternator (had it tested before I left the store) and new belts. No more screeching, but it still makes the engine stumble.

Why?
Triple is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-06-2011, 12:29 AM   #29
goof2
AMA Supersport
 
goof2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 4,756
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple View Post
Let's brainstorm, again.

I finally got the car running last weekend. It stuttered a bit as it choked down the last bit of old gas sitting in the lines (I drained the tank, installed a new fuel filter, and re-filled with fresh, ZERO-ETHANOL fuel), but it now idles smoothly and responds normally to throttle inputs.

One problem: use of the power windows, headlights, wipers, etc causes the engine to stumble. This was an issue before I parked the car two years ago, too, only then it would cause the alternator belt to scream as well. I've since installed a new alternator (had it tested before I left the store) and new belts. No more screeching, but it still makes the engine stumble.

Why?
Have you checked your grounds?
goof2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2011, 12:21 PM   #30
TommyHotWheel
Imported from Detroit
 
TommyHotWheel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Michigan
Moto: 2001 Suzuki TL1000R
Posts: 989
Default

Ground, make sure you have a good one.
__________________

Cry Havok! And let slip the hogs of war!
TommyHotWheel is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:32 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.