For Homeslice: Mac people and PC people

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by Apoc

If you say so. I built a top of the line PC, with an i7 960, dual HD 5870 video cards, w/ 8gb/ram and a 10k/RPM HDD. I paid under 1000$ to build the tower. Motherboard, heatsink, fans, case, and got a free razer gaming mouse and KB with the deal. I already had the monitor.

The best Mac Desktop? They start at 2599$, right up to 5199$ CDN for the most powerful one, which is about half as powerful as the desktop I built. I could be real generous and and say 2/3 as powerful, but i'd be lying. It even uses a single two generation old HD 5770 Video card, and only 6gb ram.

Yay. You can build a really powerful PC for less than a Mac.

In the mid-range, where most people exist, a Mac Mini and a TV are cheaper, and more useful.

At the top end, where you've just described your penis-extension PC, replete with all its cooling fans, and cool graphics, what can you actually use it for? Playing cool games?

See, people who really need this kind of power (graphic artists, video editors, and music production houses), will buy a Mac, because that's what does these tasks. They are people who would rather GET SHIT DONE, than fuck with cheap PC parts, bad drivers, and incompatibilities. Their time is worth more than that.

My time is worth more than that, anymore; and here's the thing: It's not that I don't know how things work, or that I can't build the super-hyper-mega-ultra-penis-extender PC...I used to build and install entire fucking networks myself; build, load, and deploy a number of "white box" PCs in one shot. Another time, I built pre-configured music PCs (even sold one to someone at Lucent Labs).

I can build whatever I want. It just so happens, Apple makes exactly what I need, and for cheaper than I can build it, and it does more, and performs better.

...and I dare say most people would have the same user experience in the mid-range. It's not a matter of "not getting it", I get it just fine. Trip gets it just fine too. If you want a Hyundai that you have to assemble, have at it.

In this case, I'll buy the mid-range Beemer turn-key instead, and be quite happy.

I think most people would.

[zerioustt]

lets face it most people buy laptops over a desktop. why? because most people want to cruise the web, buy stuff, watch movies, porn, and download music. i buy toshibas and they last about 4 or 5 years and i have never paid over 500 bucks for one, to me thats a deal mac cant offer.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Avatard

At the top end, where you've just described your penis-extension PC, replete with all its cooling fans, and cool graphics, what can you actually use it for? Playing cool games?

That 'penis extension' can do all of that, with software that's now every bit as good as the Mac-based product (frequently at a significantly lower price point) AND play those games.

[Apoc]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

That 'penis extension' can do all of that, with software that's now every bit as good as the Mac-based product (frequently at a significantly lower price point) AND play those games.

Ignorance. its what makes both Christianity and Apple thrive.

[Homeslice]

Criticizing people for buying Macs is like criticizing people for not changing their own oil. Or criticizing someone for hiring a painter instead of painting their house themselves.

For some people, their time is not worth the piddly little $ savings they would get from doing those things themselves.

I'm sure there's some avenue of your life, or some purchase you've made, that you left to the experts, instead of digging into the details.

[Avatard]

I know how to build a PC. I've built dozens. Apple does it better for cheaper, so I stopped wasting my time, and now instead of fucking with computers, I actually get shit done. Wow, what a fucking concept.

[Papa_Complex]

I built literally thousands

... so I decided to let Dell do it for me.

[Trip]

I hope your dell is better than our dell, because our dell has serious quality control issues. Dell use to be awesome because they followed the Apple/Sony business model.

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by zerioustt

lets face it most people buy laptops over a desktop. why? because most people want to cruise the web, buy stuff, watch movies, porn, and download music. i buy toshibas and they last about 4 or 5 years and i have never paid over 500 bucks for one, to me thats a deal mac cant offer.

Toshiba makes good PC lappys. Dell, and Lenova too.

Dell makes good workstation PCs. HP is pure shit.

Server, I'd use Mac, Dell, or probably build something nice.

The fastest laptop running Windows is a Macbook Pro, however.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Trip

I hope your dell is better than our dell, because our dell has serious quality control issues. Dell use to be awesome because they followed the Apple/Sony business model.

Actually Dell set the business model, that other manufacturers have struggled to try and emulate. The only issue that I had to deal with, on the system I'm typing this on, was an iffy video driver. I fixed that pretty quickly. For me, it was easy. For anyone else it would have taken no more than a 5 minute internet search.

The other systems, that I use, are business grade Dell systems. I've never had a compatibility issue with one. They work, right out of the box, and are stable in configuration for no less than 6 months.