Go Back   Two Wheel Fix > General > News Desk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-24-2011, 01:37 PM   #91
Avatard
Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon
 
Avatard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Here to integrity
Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja
Posts: 7,482
Default

Yep, you guys are winners. Just like Charlie.

__________________
Insert free thought here.
Avatard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2011, 02:19 AM   #92
101lifts2
WSB Champion
 
101lifts2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Anaheim, CA
Moto: 2009 Kawi ZX6R
Posts: 5,570
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho View Post
Again... you fail to recognize that they had a choice... They CHOSE to break the law, stupid law or not... it's not like the consequences are a big fucking secret. I guess that's too complicated of a concept for you to understand.
He is not arguing consequences of the law, rather the baselessness of the law so I don't know why you keep bringing this up.

Prisions were made in large numbers for the sole purpose of creating a transfer of wealth from the taxpaper to a select group of individuals who could profit from it.. You stir propaganda to the masses (show black people with guns with a bag of weed, broken households, fighting etc.), contribute heavily to the "tuff on crime" lawmakers and hope that the masses vote for these lawmakers so they can legislate filling up your hotels. Then more money to be made in the judicial system/ law enforcement arena.

Now do this with...the war on terror, the war on global warming...the war on healthcare...the war on cap and trade...See a pattern? It's about money, not about rehabilitation or stopping drug usage.

If everyone "obeyed" the law and stopped doing drugs illegally, the transfer of wealth would just move to something else as long as they could get the masses behind it using propaganda...i.e. speeding in excess of 90mph...JAIL TIME!!
__________________
Train Hard

Ron Paul - 2012

Mark of Excellence
GM

Last edited by 101lifts2; 06-26-2011 at 02:35 AM..
101lifts2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2011, 11:32 AM   #93
askmrjesus
Soul Man
 
askmrjesus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Everywhere, all the time.
Moto: '0000 Custom Turbo Cross (with jet kit).
Posts: 6,481
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 101lifts2 View Post
He is not arguing consequences of the law, rather the baselessness of the law so I don't know why you keep bringing this up.

Prisions were made in large numbers for the sole purpose of creating a transfer of wealth from the taxpaper to a select group of individuals who could profit from it.. You stir propaganda to the masses (show black people with guns with a bag of weed, broken households, fighting etc.), contribute heavily to the "tuff on crime" lawmakers and hope that the masses vote for these lawmakers so they can legislate filling up your hotels. Then more money to be made in the judicial system/ law enforcement arena.

Now do this with...the war on terror, the war on global warming...the war on healthcare...the war on cap and trade...See a pattern? It's about money, not about rehabilitation or stopping drug usage.

If everyone "obeyed" the law and stopped doing drugs illegally, the transfer of wealth would just move to something else as long as they could get the masses behind it using propaganda...i.e. speeding in excess of 90mph...JAIL TIME!!
Excellent post, and spot on.

One of the biggest reasons pot is still illegal, is the boom of the private prison industry (which itself use to be illegal) since the mid-eighties.

For those of you unaware of how this works, I suggest reading this:

http://www.correctionsproject.com/co.../pris_priv.htm

JC
__________________
The way things are going, they're gonna crucify me.
askmrjesus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2011, 11:51 AM   #94
Papa_Complex
Nomadic Tribesman
 
Papa_Complex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Brampton, Canada
Moto: '09 ER-6n
Posts: 11,150
Default

And it's so bloody transparent, that I really can't understand how my fellow countrymen can be suckered into letting our current Conservative government move in that direction.
__________________
"Everything's better with pirates." - Lodge, "Dorkness Rising"

http://www.morallyambiguous.net/
Papa_Complex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2011, 12:32 PM   #95
anthonyk
WERA White Plate
 
anthonyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Austin, TX
Moto: '01 Aprilia Falco
Posts: 1,041
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 101lifts2 View Post
He is not arguing consequences of the law, rather the baselessness of the law so I don't know why you keep bringing this up.
Avatard seems to be suggesting that drug offenders should be exempt from at least some (if not all) of the consequences of breaking the law, because he thinks the law is unjust. That's why it keeps coming up.

Great post outlining the ridiculousness of the war on drugs, but you're preaching to the choir. Nobody has argued that the drug laws or prison system are just or fair. The system is obviously broken, but that doesn't mean you can just ignore it while you work to fix it.
anthonyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2011, 12:48 PM   #96
fujimoh
Kneedragger
 
fujimoh's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Florida
Moto: CBR 1000RR
Posts: 230
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avatard View Post
So you compound the absurdity of bad law, with hard labor?

Makes sense. To you. I fear what else does, based on that.

Geez, your dumb runs deep.

There, I called you dumb. You earned it...but you're not alone...
Why not? if the law is absurd, so should the punishment be.

Take a look at who is running the Justice department and most of of the local PD's and prosecutor's offices, the same Free Love, If it Feels Good Do it, pot smoking hippies of the 60's
fujimoh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-27-2011, 08:11 PM   #97
askmrjesus
Soul Man
 
askmrjesus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Everywhere, all the time.
Moto: '0000 Custom Turbo Cross (with jet kit).
Posts: 6,481
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fujimoh View Post
Why not? if the law is absurd, so should the punishment be.

Take a look at who is running the Justice department and most of of the local PD's and prosecutor's offices, the same Free Love, If it Feels Good Do it, pot smoking hippies of the 60's
Some times a post shines through the murky vapors of cyber space, like a brilliant star, guiding the reader to a higher understanding of the topic at hand.

This is not one of those times.

JC
__________________
The way things are going, they're gonna crucify me.

Last edited by askmrjesus; 06-27-2011 at 08:15 PM.. Reason: hypertension
askmrjesus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2011, 09:10 AM   #98
fujimoh
Kneedragger
 
fujimoh's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Florida
Moto: CBR 1000RR
Posts: 230
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by askmrjesus View Post
Some times a post shines through the murky vapors of cyber space, like a brilliant star, guiding the reader to a higher understanding of the topic at hand.

This is not one of those times.

JC
Thank-you very little
fujimoh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2011, 10:13 AM   #99
tommymac
Moto GP Star
 
tommymac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,022
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by askmrjesus View Post
Some times a post shines through the murky vapors of cyber space, like a brilliant star, guiding the reader to a higher understanding of the topic at hand.

This is not one of those times.

JC
That wasnt nice getting his hopes up only to crush them
tommymac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2011, 10:34 AM   #100
askmrjesus
Soul Man
 
askmrjesus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Everywhere, all the time.
Moto: '0000 Custom Turbo Cross (with jet kit).
Posts: 6,481
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tommymac View Post
That wasnt nice getting his hopes up only to crush them
It was a hell of a lot nicer than the first thing that popped into my head.

JC
__________________
The way things are going, they're gonna crucify me.
askmrjesus is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:44 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.