Etta James - She's going to bitch slap you! - Page 10

Flexin · 02-09-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At_Last

Ella Fitzgerald also sang it. Damned well.

Whoa whoa whoa.

Trip you keep going on about people not writing their on song and how they are sell outs.

""At Last" is a 1941 song written by Mack Gordon and Harry Warren for the musical film Orchestra Wives,"

Etta did write the song, and she wasn't the first to sing it. You said she made it popular. Does that make it pop? But Beyoncé is now making it popular today. So does that mean that she now OWNS it?

James

Mr Lefty · 02-09-2009, 04:58 PM

so wait... does Ella own the song or not? if not... there's no reason for Beyonce to call her... I mean just because an artest remade the song... doesn't mean you have to call every person who's ever done it to get permission... just the person with the rights to it.

Papa_Complex · 02-09-2009, 04:59 PM

Having tossed a hand grenade into the room, I will now quietly back out and close the door behind me.

the chi · 02-09-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ebbs15

so wait... does Ella own the song or not? if not... there's no reason for Beyonce to call her... I mean just because an artest remade the song... doesn't mean you have to call every person who's ever done it to get permission... just the person with the rights to it.

And thus I reiterate my point about professional courtesy being a dead concept. *sigh* This is retarded.

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Having tossed a hand grenade into the room, I will now quietly back out and close the door behind me.

GOOD JOB!!

Mr Lefty · 02-09-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Chi

And thus I reiterate my point about professional courtesy being a dead concept. *sigh* This is retarded.

but my point is where does it stop... say if I wanted to record White Christmas... would I have to contact every person that recorded it and sold tons of copies to be considered "professionally courteous"?

how about the song I will always love you? would I have to check with Whitney to perform it? or Dolly Parton? Dolly wrote it... and sold a lot of records because of it. Whitney brought it to the rest of the (non country) world... so who "owns" it? who do I be "professionally courteous" to?

I understand your point... that you should ask permission even if you don't need it... but I'm just asking where you draw the line... ya know?

the chi · 02-09-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ebbs15

but my point is where does it stop... say if I wanted to record White Christmas... would I have to contact every person that recorded it and sold tons of copies to be considered "professionally courteous"?

how about the song I will always love you? would I have to check with Whitney to perform it? or Dolly Parton? Dolly wrote it... and sold a lot of records because of it. Whitney brought it to the rest of the (non country) world... so who "owns" it? who do I be "professionally courteous" to?

I understand your point... that you should ask permission even if you don't need it... but I'm just asking where you draw the line... ya know?

The only reason I bring it up in this instance, as I stated before, is because they did work closely together, and there was a relationship due to the movie work.

If you had done a movie portraying Bing Crosby and had worked with him, to get your performance down pat as Bing Crosby, theres a relationship there.

And if you were to go do some big thing using the song he helped make famous, and helped you to learn to perform as he did, then yes, with a relationship there, it would be courteous to contact him.

Now, if you didnt know him from adam, and were performing the song to the general public then no, it wouldnt matter. The point is, B failed to provide a courtesy to Etta.

smileyman · 02-09-2009, 05:32 PM

I will provide a courtesy...Lock this thread!

the chi · 02-09-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

I will provide a courtesy...Lock this thread!

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Flexin · 02-09-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Chi

The only reason I bring it up in this instance, as I stated before, is because they did work closely together, and there was a relationship due to the movie work.

If you had done a movie portraying Bing Crosby and had worked with him, to get your performance down pat as Bing Crosby, theres a relationship there.

And if you were to go do some big thing using the song he helped make famous, and helped you to learn to perform as he did, then yes, with a relationship there, it would be courteous to contact him.

Now, if you didnt know him from adam, and were performing the song to the general public then no, it wouldnt matter. The point is, B failed to provide a courtesy to Etta.

BUT she did work with Etta for the movie right? And any needed permission would have been done FOR the movie. Am I right here? And in making a movie a sound track is made. Singles from the sound track will be used as advertising. Sooooo Etta should have known damn well that she would be performing this song more then once. This she should know unless she is a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic.

And ebbs is right. You can't contact everyone. Damn for some songs the first to sing is are long gone. So really they only need to contact the legal owner of the song. But in this case because of the movie Etta was contacted.

James

Flexin · 02-09-2009, 06:17 PM

Here is the beautiful thing. The people in this thread that don't like Beyoncé can keep doing that and its fine. Thats the beautiful thing about living in North America. Your free to choose. Some people only like one type of music. Then some people like Ebbs like everything over the course of a month or so. :LOL:

James

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02-09-2009, 04:58 PM	#92
Mr Lefty TWFix Legend Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver CO Moto: 01 BMW F650GS Dakar Posts: 15,677	so wait... does Ella own the song or not? if not... there's no reason for Beyonce to call her... I mean just because an artest remade the song... doesn't mean you have to call every person who's ever done it to get permission... just the person with the rights to it.

02-09-2009, 04:59 PM	#93
Papa_Complex Nomadic Tribesman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brampton, Canada Moto: '09 ER-6n Posts: 11,150	Having tossed a hand grenade into the room, I will now quietly back out and close the door behind me.