Real life bully beatdown...

[Flexin]

Originally Posted by Apoc

When we were kids, fighting was just normal. Its what young boys did. We all had something to prove at that age, and we did our best to do just that. Hell, at 16 I was fighting grown men in bars, standing up to guys bigger than me when Tmall was going to get a beatdown , and beating the fuck out of guys for calling down my mom. And to this day, I have never committed a violent crime.

I never understood the animosity towards kids being kids. No way in hell would I punish a child for standing up for himself, nor would I allow the school to tell me how to discipline my child.

Hell, in the early grades (1-9), I dont even remember ever getting suspended for fighting, ever. And we fought a lot. At worst we spent lunch inside for a day. And guess what? None of us grew up to be violent criminals.

I have done the lunch inside and many trips to the office.

It was never for anything real big. I think for a bad fight there might be a couple days home but its nothing like it is now. They can't do shit in school now.

James

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Apoc

You must have missed key phrases like 'back then' and 'was/were different'. Reading comprehension is your friend.

As I said, I dont know about todays laws, things have changed drasticly here over the years. But 15 years ago, doing anything besides trying to remove yourself from the situation was an 'agreement to fight'. I know this for a fact, as i've seen it many times not just with me, but with others.

I once saw a guy get attacked while sitting in the passenger seat of the car he was in. He got out, and proceeded to get beat down badly. Never even threw a punch or raised a hand. Tried to press charges against the guy, cops wouldnt allow it. By getting out of the car, he made a non-verbal agreement to fight. No charges pressed by the popo, and this guy was badly fucked up. Broken nose, black eyes, cracked cheekbone, multiple stitches. He later saw a lawer, he couldnt even legally have a tooth that was broken paid for by the guy who broke it.

In Canada we don't "press charges", The Crown does in the name of The Queen.

Mutual combat is one thing. Police and The Crown would be fully willing to let the health care system clean it up, instead of the courts. Standing there and taking it isn't mutual combat, so there was likely something more going on. Odds are that they were local cops, who knew one or both the people involved.

You are permitted, under our laws, to defend yourself with sufficient force to stop the assault. No more. There is also an implied duty of retreat.

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Apoc

You must have missed key phrases like 'back then' and 'was/were different'. Reading comprehension is your friend.


blah blah blah

No...you said you didn't know and I posted the law for you.

Consider yourself schooled.

[Gas Man]

Originally Posted by Flexin

If he was picked on for 3 years he might need it.

I blame his father. His father is the one that told him not to fight. You don't have to beat up every bully but you need to stand up for yourself. And if they start laying fist on you then need to spit teeth.

I don't want my kids fighting at school but if someone lays a hand on them I want them to lay them out. If the teachers can keep things under control I want my kids to protect themselves. I don't want them becoming a basket case because they bottle it up for years.

James

I agree with all of that ^^

[the chi]

I feel for the big kid and totally agree that zero tolerance has gone too far. When I get around to having a kid, they will be taught that to defend oneself is fine, they'll never be punished for that, but I wont tolerate fighting just to fight or bullying of any kind. Maybe I'll home school to keep them outta this ZT BS.

The one and only fight I was ever in at school was because of constant bullying by a couple of boys and when all 90 lbs of me finally snapped after I got punched in class, they are just lucky I didnt have anything sharp or they might have required hospital stays. I beat the shit out of both of them, to the point they were hiding behind desks and other students in the middle of class. After I finished freaking out, I walked up to the teacher and went straight to the counselor's office, explained myself, the history of bullying, and was given the all clear while they were suspended for several days. Thankfully I had witnesses to back me and they had years long history of being trouble makers. I cant imagine the BS I'd have gone through in today's system.

Funny tho, I never had another issue with anyone after that...

Moral: Dont eff with the elf. Today Im too old and broken to fight, but I will shoot ya.

[Papa_Complex]

Elves have longbows. You don't screw with longbows.

[the chi]

I prefer compound myself...we try to keep up with the ages...

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Elves have longbows. You don't screw with longbows.

That's LotR elves, she's of the keebler variety. They have cookies. LOL

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by the chi

I prefer compound myself...we try to keep up with the ages...

So you're saying that I have to get rid of my longbow?

Originally Posted by Trip

That's LotR elves, she's of the keebler variety. They have cookies. LOL

That has SO many possible responses

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by Trip

That's LotR elves, she's of the keebler variety. They have cookies. LOL

When you end up with an arrow sticking out of your ass don't come crying to us