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Old 05-15-2009, 11:09 PM   #121
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Are you suggesting we compare the R&D of Harley, who haven't been innovative in any way since long before I was born, to the Japanese companies who live on the bleeding edge of motorcycle development?

When does that Harley GP bike come out again?
HD isn't and prob never will make a GP bike. That's not what they are trying to do either.
I don't know all the details, but HD has made a lot of changes/inovations in the last 20+ years. Trust me, a 1989 HD is not the same as a 2009 HD.

As for the jap bikes... compare the first models to HD's of years prior. There were a LOT of similarities. who copied who?
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:23 PM   #122
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Hey I am no mechanic but I will tell you this... you see a great deal more when you start taking parts off at 3 feet in the air on the lift.

And ebbs... I'll put my 280k 1991 Pontiac 6000 LE up to that idea that american cars aren't realiable. Never did anything to the motor or trans besides new fluids.
ok... that's one... and I'm sure we could find 100 people with experiences like yours... but 1000 next to the 20000+ you'll find with Toyota or Honda...

there's a reason why domestic's have the rep they do. sure... they may be working to get rid of that... still along way to go.... sorry
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:24 PM   #123
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Notice I still have not said anything bad about say Honda realiability.
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:25 PM   #124
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ok... that's one... and I'm sure we could find 100 people with experiences like yours... but 1000 next to the 20000+ you'll find with Toyota or Honda...

there's a reason why domestic's have the rep they do. sure... they may be working to get rid of that... still along way to go.... sorry
Neighbor back home had a 83 F250 with a 351 in it. Beat the shit out of it, farm truck. Bought it new, NEVER changed the oil. Just the filter, every 10K. I know it hit 280,000 before I went off to college. He still has it and drives it, not sure on current mileage.
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:30 PM   #125
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I love honda I have had 2 go over 260,000 when I sold them still running.

BUT I've had a 91 s-10 that had 248,000 when I sold it.(original)
A 95 Isuzu Rodeo with 268,000 when I sold it(only replaced starter)
My mustang had 243,000 on it as well (but it was torn apart from racing and adding parts on every weekend lol so guess it does not count)

I have a 2000 Jetta with 268,000 miles on it right now
My 04 Ram has 103,000 miles no problems thus far
02 Nissan Altima at 154,000 only had to rebuild alternator.
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:38 PM   #126
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Notice I still have not said anything bad about say Honda realiability.
and I wasn't saying you were... I was just saying that domestics aren't on par with the imports in reliability... and there's still quite a gap imo... but I do think the imports are getting worse... dunno if domestics are getting better though
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Old 05-16-2009, 08:05 AM   #127
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Trip, if you do end up picking up a GS and it's used, ask if the Final Drive has been replaced - they have been known to have issues from what I've heard and fail at the most in-opportune times...
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Old 05-16-2009, 08:11 AM   #128
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That the 1200. I think I am avoiding that gen and getting a 1150.
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Old 05-16-2009, 08:13 AM   #129
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That the 1200. I think I am avoiding that gen and getting a 1150.
ah. I thought I saw you mention that you were looking at a 1200 somewhere
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Old 05-16-2009, 08:52 AM   #130
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He was origionally.

Let's get back talking about the gs's
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