Gun Thread

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Heard an interesting comment today, about this. it was essentially, "So, NRA, MORE guns will make us safe? Who has more than the military?"

"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Trip

"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

"Them what give guns to looney tunes get shot in the face." - Me

['73 H1 Triple]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Heard an interesting comment today, about this. it was essentially, "So, NRA, MORE guns will make us safe? Who has more than the military?"

The shooter took a weapon into a known gun free zone. The other weapons were taken from security.

If the regular folks had weapons, he would not have gotten off as many shots and even more likely, would have not picked a spot were folks were armed.

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Did he or did he not have a "secret" military clearance? I had heard his clearance was just recently renewed.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by '73 H1 Triple

The shooter took a weapon into a known gun free zone. The other weapons were taken from security.

If the regular folks had weapons, he would not have gotten off as many shots and even more likely, would have not picked a spot were folks were armed.

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Did he or did he not have a "secret" military clearance? I had heard his clearance was just recently renewed.

I'm not buying it. Not in a place that had heavily armed security.

He had 'secret' clearance. That pretty much meant he was allowed past the gate, and not much else. Hell, the janitors probably have 'secret' level clearance.

[RACER X]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Heard an interesting comment today, about this. it was essentially, "So, NRA, MORE guns will make us safe? Who has more than the military?"

once he got past the 1st perimeter, there were no guns....see how well that worked out.

same w. N Hassan base shooting, there were no guns.

thanks clinton!

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by RACER X

once he got past the 1st perimeter, there were no guns....see how well that worked out.

same w. N Hassan base shooting, there were no guns.

thanks clinton!

Failure of security. They'll search you for cameras, but not for guns?

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Heard an interesting comment today, about this. it was essentially, "So, NRA, MORE guns will make us safe? Who has more than the military?"

Sure, the Military has lots of guns. Maybe some of our Military members can weigh in but from what I understand on a base here stateside they are all locked up and people on base are prohibited from carrying. Outside of a few security guards nobody is carrying a gun.

To answer the comment more specifically I'd say the clientele of your average Starbucks in the South (with their surprising policy concerning firearms) has more accessible guns than a military base in America.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by goof2

Sure, the Military has lots of guns. Maybe some of our Military members can weigh in but from what I understand on a base here stateside they are all locked up and people on base are prohibited from carrying. Outside of a few security guards nobody is carrying a gun.

To answer the comment more specifically I'd say the clientele of your average Starbucks in the South (with their surprising policy concerning firearms) has more accessible guns than a military base in America.

And yet Starbucks doesn't have a check in/check out procedure.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

And yet Starbucks doesn't have a check in/check out procedure.

How does that relate to the comment you heard or its implication that this shooting demonstrates the NRA's thinking is wrong?

Related to my comment about Starbucks, looks like they are caving to pressure and changing their policy about guns.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/18/news...html?hpt=hp_c2

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by goof2

How does that relate to the comment you heard or its implication that this shooting demonstrates the NRA's thinking is wrong?

Related to my comment about Starbucks, looks like they are caving to pressure and changing their policy about guns.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/18/news...html?hpt=hp_c2

I haven't heard about 12 people being shot at a Starbucks recently.