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Hold mah beer!
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: 80 Miles South of Moto Heaven
Moto: 08 R1200GS
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AMA Supersport
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Richmond, Tx
Moto: '10 Tuono Factory
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you can bring your own bike to BRC in TX but we don't recommend it.
and of course have to sign waivers and pass a quick tech inspection and be road legal w/ ins.
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Hold mah beer!
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: 80 Miles South of Moto Heaven
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That's a nice improvement. I didn't have a bike yet when I took it, but that would of been a nice option.
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AMA Supersport
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Richmond, Tx
Moto: '10 Tuono Factory
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recent (as in last yr) brit transplant
seasoned rider/seasoned racer posted today. Quote:
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Soul Man
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Everywhere, all the time.
Moto: '0000 Custom Turbo Cross (with jet kit).
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Sham WOW
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: ATX
Moto: 2007 Ducati 1098
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#147 |
Hold mah beer!
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: 80 Miles South of Moto Heaven
Moto: 08 R1200GS
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hahhahahahahahhahaha, awesome
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Crotch Rocket Curmudgeon
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Here to integrity
Moto: Li'l red baby Ninja
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Its a good day.
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Pace, FL
Moto: Victory Kingpin Low
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....I'm taking the ERC on the 13th of May. Practice doing slow maneuvers can't ever be a bad thing. I'd like to try a track day next.
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Issukangitok
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Biloxi, MS
Moto: '06 Suzuki Boulevard C50T
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[QUOTE=Trip;365934]MSF is not a tiered system. It's one class/one tier. The tiered system in Europe allows you to advance through the levels of bikes and progress.
There is no progression plan in the MSF. It's here's some basic shit, now go out into the world.[QUOTE]There is progression, the same as the classes you described in Europe. The BRC teaches basic motorcycle skills such as clutch control, braking, etc. The ERC teaches more advanced skills such as anticipating curves, moving atg a higher rate of speed. And the parking lot speeds? In the ERC they're moving at much slower tht road speeds but they get up to 25 in some excercies. Coincidentally, this is the speed limit for most of the base. [QUOTE=Trip;365934]The euro training courses I am referring to, does go through the noob basics and you progress to actual street riding and further beyond that. It's a true progression of skill to the point where you are qualified to ride on the road safely without needing further training where as the average rider is not ready for the street right out of MSF.[QUOTE]I agree that more training is needed, you're not ready to race out of an MSF course. That's why I give my students information on riding groups and encourage them to come ride with us. Quote:
To answer some others, you can ride your own bike in our BRC/ERC. I encourage it actually, since you should familiarize yourself with what you're riding. You can score 20 points or below in the course, but it isn't one point for everything. In the quick stop you get one point per foot over the standard for your time. In the swerve you'll get ten points assessed if you hit the obstacle, five for braking during the swerve. So the points are assessed differently depending on the severity of the consequences of what you did. The worse the consequences of that mistake in the real world, the higher the points assessed in the simulation.You can ride the first three test exercises fine, but three mistakes in the cornering exercise will fail you. Which makes sense, since a high percentage of motorcycle accidents involving serious injuries are during turns. Likewise, there are at least five exercises where turning is practices and three or so for swerving (don't have my cards with me) but only two for quick stops. I don't teach the sport bike course yet, but when they start putting people through the cert course here I have a slot reserved, which means I'm in the market for a sport bike (don't tell Ulu!) There is an MSF street riding course that goes beyond the ERC, there's also a cruiser specific school as well as a dirt bike school. So I can put you through a BRC, an ERC, a sport bike or cruiser course, and a street riding course. How much more tiered do you want?
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