Inception spoiler thread - Page 2

pauldun170 · 07-20-2010, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsunami

Crap! You guys are corrupting my understanding of it!

I thought the end was real, the spinning thing looked like it was going to topple soon. Never thought the whole thing was in his head.

Notice how at the end his kids looked just like they did in his "memory\dreams"
Same position?
Same clothes?
Same everything?

The only difference was that he saw their faces at the end. Otherwise everything was identical.

Do you remember the purpose of the totem?
he had the spinning top, the other guy had the loaded die, the girl had the chess piece....

EpyonXero · 07-23-2010, 12:09 AM

Just saw it tonight, very good movie.

If there was a line dividing the ending between being reality or a dream I think theres one thing that pushes it onto the dream side: Cobb didnt know how he got there.

When he wakes up on the plane he seems surprised to see everyone and we never see how he escaped. Then, when hes at the house with his kids he walks into the room and looks around surprised to be there. I think in both cases he would be unable to explain how he got there and thus must be in a dream.

Tsunami · 07-23-2010, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by EpyonXero

Just saw it tonight, very good movie.

If there was a line dividing the ending between being reality or a dream I think theres one thing that pushes it onto the dream side: Cobb didnt know how he got there.

When he wakes up on the plane he seems surprised to see everyone and we never see how he escaped. Then, when hes at the house with his kids he walks into the room and looks around surprised to be there. I think in both cases he would be unable to explain how he got there and thus must be in a dream.

He got there because they fell off the bridge and it woke them back up to reality.

I thought maybe the kids were in the same clothes just to portray that everything came around full circle?

EpyonXero · 07-23-2010, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsunami

He got there because they fell off the bridge and it woke them back up to reality.

I thought maybe the kids were in the same clothes just to portray that everything came around full circle?

When they fell off the bridge he was still asleep in the van. The last thing they showed was Cobb and Old Saito talking to each other in limbo.

Porkchop · 08-01-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

Notice how at the end his kids looked just like they did in his "memory\dreams"
Same position?
Same clothes?
Same everything?

The only difference was that he saw their faces at the end. Otherwise everything was identical.

Do you remember the purpose of the totem?
he had the spinning top, the other guy had the loaded die, the girl had the chess piece....

Bingo, the kids hadn't aged and they were wearing the same clothes The kids on the phone call sounded much older. He had to have been stuck in a dream. Now the question is where did he enter the dream. After he tried the chemist's strong potion, we see him splash his face with water and spin the top... but it falls off the counter and you never see it stop. The dream could have started with that "powerful" sedative. My brother thinks he remembers the top falling again later in their warehouse, so he could have entered the dream in one of his single sessions.

The totem was to let you know whether you were in a dream or not. Only the totems carrier could know the exact weight and feel of the item or it could be cast against you in a dream. Of course the top would continually spin in a dream, and fall in reality.

Porkchop · 08-01-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EpyonXero

Just saw it tonight, very good movie.

If there was a line dividing the ending between being reality or a dream I think theres one thing that pushes it onto the dream side: Cobb didnt know how he got there.

When he wakes up on the plane he seems surprised to see everyone and we never see how he escaped. Then, when hes at the house with his kids he walks into the room and looks around surprised to be there. I think in both cases he would be unable to explain how he got there and thus must be in a dream.

I believe Cobb and old Saito kill themselves to free themselves from limbo.

But I believe technically if it was real, his father drove him home from the airport.

6doublefive321 · 08-08-2010, 03:09 PM

Limbo, and here are my thoughts:

Mol was a projection of his subconscious trying to send him back to reality. She was always trying to foil his dreams in order for him to wake up.

When Cobb was explaining to Ellen Paige the story of Mol, we never see the children's faces. Even when he is remembering "actual" events, we never see the faces. He only sees the faces when he believes he is back in reality.

Fischer and his projections were actually Cobb's projections trying to wake him up. In fact, all the antagonists to Cobb were his own projections trying to pull him out of limbo.

Or not. This was a great movie for the fact that we don't know what was real and what wasn't. Maybe it was the autistic kid from St. Elsewhere dreaming the whole thing.

karl_1052 · 08-09-2010, 12:51 PM

Movie was entertaining, but crap.

The 'kick' is supposed to be the sensation of falling to wake them up. Would you not get that sensation while being in a van that is rolling over 3 times(not to mention jumping over curbs and stuff).
Would an elevator falling not give you the sensation of falling(not to mention you would not be stuck to the floor of a falling elevator(you would fall at the same rate), then pop off the floor when it hits the ground.
Would a plane on a 10 hour flight from Hong Kong to LA not experience turbulance, waking them all from the dream

As for your question, he is definitely in limbo at the end. He would have to wake from each dream successively to come out completely, and there would be no way without a kick from the 4th level.
His kids are the same age, even though he has been 'away' for years.

My question about the movie is: Who is the fat guy that ate Tom Berringer?

6doublefive321 · 08-09-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052

My question about the movie is: Who is the fat guy that ate Tom Berringer?

No shit. I didn't realize that was him until later in the movie. Nom nom nom.

07-23-2010, 12:09 AM	#2
EpyonXero AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Redneck Riviera, FL Moto: 2003 VFR800f6 Posts: 2,531	Just saw it tonight, very good movie. If there was a line dividing the ending between being reality or a dream I think theres one thing that pushes it onto the dream side: Cobb didnt know how he got there. When he wakes up on the plane he seems surprised to see everyone and we never see how he escaped. Then, when hes at the house with his kids he walks into the room and looks around surprised to be there. I think in both cases he would be unable to explain how he got there and thus must be in a dream. __________________

08-08-2010, 03:09 PM	#7
6doublefive321 Resident Droog Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Northern burbs, Atlanta Moto: 625 SMC, '08 Tuono R Posts: 471	Limbo, and here are my thoughts: Mol was a projection of his subconscious trying to send him back to reality. She was always trying to foil his dreams in order for him to wake up. When Cobb was explaining to Ellen Paige the story of Mol, we never see the children's faces. Even when he is remembering "actual" events, we never see the faces. He only sees the faces when he believes he is back in reality. Fischer and his projections were actually Cobb's projections trying to wake him up. In fact, all the antagonists to Cobb were his own projections trying to pull him out of limbo. Or not. This was a great movie for the fact that we don't know what was real and what wasn't. Maybe it was the autistic kid from St. Elsewhere dreaming the whole thing. __________________ I'm sick and tired of being bored.

08-09-2010, 12:51 PM	#8
karl_1052 sergeant hatred Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ottawa Moto: The bus Posts: 2,723	Movie was entertaining, but crap. The 'kick' is supposed to be the sensation of falling to wake them up. Would you not get that sensation while being in a van that is rolling over 3 times(not to mention jumping over curbs and stuff). Would an elevator falling not give you the sensation of falling(not to mention you would not be stuck to the floor of a falling elevator(you would fall at the same rate), then pop off the floor when it hits the ground. Would a plane on a 10 hour flight from Hong Kong to LA not experience turbulance, waking them all from the dream As for your question, he is definitely in limbo at the end. He would have to wake from each dream successively to come out completely, and there would be no way without a kick from the 4th level. His kids are the same age, even though he has been 'away' for years. My question about the movie is: Who is the fat guy that ate Tom Berringer? __________________ My wife was afraid of the dark...then she saw me naked and now she's afraid of the light.