BREAKING: GM disbands High Performance Vehicle Operations

[unknownroad]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Exactly the opposite of what they should have done. Except for those cars, nothing else in GM's lineup is very interesting. Furthermore, if you were an engineer, you would put out your best work when you're allowed to work on interesting vehicles.

Can you imagine being an engineer working on the V-series Caddies, and being moved to BUICK!

Ugh. I can't believe GM's upper management gets paid at all, never mind the seven-figure salaries + bonuses they draw. It's like they all graduated from the Special Needs School of Business.

[smileyman]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Thanks to every idiot and their mom saying "GREEN GREEN GREEN", planners figure that XFE editions of every car is the way to go.

Glad Ford labelled all there turbo engines "ecoBoost".

Makes idiots feel all squishy inside that they hare being "green".

They shoulda been saying "boogity, boogity, boogity boys!"

Sad really. Nothing will save your Corp if you cannot attract buyers, the only way to "catch up" to the rest of the world is thru engineering and development which happens best in racing. Damn NASCAR and their carbuerated V8 mantra. Chevy should have been working on dual OHC, variable timing, turbo and super charging, traction and stability controls, ECU timing and fuel management. Instead they throw millions and millions at making sure Jeff Gordon and Dale Jr's faces appear all over America in front of shit SS Badged Impalas and Monte Carlos

[Dave]

umm so whats wrong with buick? Thats the brand that gave us the gs gn and all the supercharged l67s. Plenty of fun stuff there. I'd actually see this as a good thing for buick maybe they'll get back to performance

[Dave]

Originally Posted by smileyman

They shoulda been saying "boogity, boogity, boogity boys!"

Sad really. Nothing will save your Corp if you cannot attract buyers, the only way to "catch up" to the rest of the world is thru engineering and development which happens best in racing. Damn NASCAR and their carbuerated V8 mantra. Chevy should have been working on dual OHC, variable timing, turbo and super charging, traction and stability controls, ECU timing and fuel management. Instead they throw millions and millions at making sure Jeff Gordon and Dale Jr's faces appear all over America in front of shit SS Badged Impalas and Monte Carlos

true story!

[Adeptus_Minor]

Originally Posted by Dave

umm so whats wrong with buick? Thats the brand that gave us the gs gn and all the supercharged l67s. Plenty of fun stuff there. I'd actually see this as a good thing for buick maybe they'll get back to performance

There's an enlightened man.

Don't confuse their current lackluster offerings with what they've contributed to automotive history.

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Exactly the opposite of what they should have done. Except for those cars, nothing else in GM's lineup is very interesting. Furthermore, if you were an engineer, you would put out your best work when you're allowed to work on interesting vehicles.

Yeah, but like most of the HO car lines, they don't pay for themselves... Therefore, it's a great move.

Originally Posted by RACER X

damm the reality, HiPO cars make up a tiny picture of GMs big picture, wonder what cobalt SS sales are compared to reg.cobalts. what less then 5%

while i hate to see it go. it's a sign of the times.

hoping the camaro comes out next yr. they've cancelled the RHD drive version for europe

then there's these issues:

"The Cadence-and-Camaro saga continues. Cadence, which makes interior parts for the Camaro, declared bankruptcy last August. GM sued the supplier to recover the specialized tooling machines it could need in order to continue Camaro production - or will it need to have the machines made again. GM also refrained from paying Cadence $4.9 million that Cadence says it is owed for "parts, labor, and equipment."

Cadence has now countersued The General, not just to get the money, but because that money is an integral part of Cadence's liquidation plans. Without it, Cadence maintains there will be "substantial harm to Cadence's bankruptcy estate." The pre-production Camaros are already in the works, and we have no idea how this development will affect the production version of the car. This battle can't be good for either company, but it's especially bad news for all of the Camaro faithful who are patiently awaiting the return of their king.

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Exactly. Keep the revenue generating lines, dump the fluff. Sounds like a good decision to me.

[bmblebee]

What do you expect from the company that brought us the Vega?

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by bmblebee

What do you expect from the company that brought us the Vega?

Vega fucking ruled.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

Yeah, but like most of the HO car lines, they don't pay for themselves... Therefore, it's a great move.



Exactly. Keep the revenue generating lines, dump the fluff. Sounds like a good decision to me.

Don't pay for themselves in terms of margin? Maybe. But just because a car doesn't provide much or any margin to the company doesn't mean it's valuable. GM needs vehicles that attract younger buyers into its brand.

[smileyman]

I believe kinda the opposite. Yes the HO cars are produced at a smaller quantity and with probably a smaller profit margin for the manufacturer, HOWEVER, to the dealers they generate floor traffic and their sales bring margins closer to the markups since they are a passionate, special interest, buy. I mean you can really talk the sales manager down on the F150 or Impala, or Taurus. But no way are you going to cut the same kinda bargain on the one per dealer Camaro SS or Cobra SVT Mustang...Those things bring a premium.