"Gender pay gap" discredited - Page 2

derf · 03-13-2011, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Amorok

My only opinion on that is that men should get time off for paternity leave as well. I took a month that was chargeable leave, whereas if I'd been a woman I'd have gotten six weeks free.

Army does, it was implemented last year (or the year before), but its not 6 weeks, it is 2 weeks non chargeable.

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Originally Posted by Amorok

Yeah, not the Air Force. Also, while a woman can get the military to pay for her breast augmentation surgery, I can't get them to pay for anything to keep me from goin g bald. THERE'S your inequality.

Yeh but they will pay for your balls to be snipped, which is worth much more than a set of bewbies, because it prevents a set of babies

Homeslice · 03-13-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by derf

Army does, it was implemented last year (or the year before), but its not 6 weeks, it is 2 weeks non chargeable.

2 weeks

101lifts2 · 03-13-2011, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Amorok

My only opinion on that is that men should get time off for paternity leave as well. I took a month that was chargeable leave, whereas if I'd been a woman I'd have gotten six weeks free.

But you're not the one actually having the child. Big difference....and if you need to stay home, then you could just as well pay for a babysitter.

Particle Man · 03-13-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

2 weeks

Are you the one popping the kid out?

I had 2 weeks paternity leave when my little one was born.

pauldun170 · 03-13-2011, 06:33 PM

Both men and woman are treated equally where I work.
3 months paid leave.
Back when I had my kids it was 2 months.
Paternity\Maternity.

It works out better for the company in that it allows for the employee to properly hand off all responsibilities vs having an unreliable exhausted employee at work.
Men have the same benefit as women because to do otherwise would be discriminatory.

Mikey · 03-13-2011, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

Under what circumstances?

A couple different circumstances, but the most common is depression caused by a negative self-image. It was originally designed to help out women with Mastectomies and things of that nature, but now it's mostly used by women who just want bigger boobs.

Amarok, the AF does give paternity leave now. IIRC, it's like 2 weeks non-chargeable.

Amorok · 03-13-2011, 07:51 PM

Well that's nice to know, that wasn't the case four years ago when Poot was born. And no, I'm not the one popping the kid out but I wanted to be home to support Ulu and make it as easy on her as I could while she was recovering and dealing with a life-threatening infection and reduced mobility. I guess my point is that they don't at all make it easy to do the right thing as a guy, but then I have to hear about how women have it so bad. Well, there's double standards everywhere, folks.

Homeslice · 03-14-2011, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikey

A couple different circumstances, but the most common is depression caused by a negative self-image. It was originally designed to help out women with Mastectomies and things of that nature, but now it's mostly used by women who just want bigger boobs.
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The mastectomy thing is common sense. But for anything else? Please.....If a woman has low self-esteem because of her boobs, then it would have been an issue BEFORE she joined the military as well.

I seriously hope any girl who gets her boobs done "just because" on the miltary's dime gets snickered at everywhere she goes. EVERYONE she works with will know what happened, and I doubt she will be taken seriously anymore.

anthonyk · 03-14-2011, 12:45 AM

I dunno, out of all the examples of "men choose these job but not women," I don't see anything that clearly shows choice is the important factor. If women are applying but not getting hired, the gap is still pretty real.

pauldun170 · 03-14-2011, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by anthonyk

I dunno, out of all the examples of "men choose these job but not women," I don't see anything that clearly shows choice is the important factor. If women are applying but not getting hired, the gap is still pretty real.

That has nothing to do with wage discrimination.

03-13-2011, 07:51 PM	#17
Amorok Issukangitok Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Biloxi, MS Moto: '06 Suzuki Boulevard C50T Posts: 2,225	Well that's nice to know, that wasn't the case four years ago when Poot was born. And no, I'm not the one popping the kid out but I wanted to be home to support Ulu and make it as easy on her as I could while she was recovering and dealing with a life-threatening infection and reduced mobility. I guess my point is that they don't at all make it easy to do the right thing as a guy, but then I have to hear about how women have it so bad. Well, there's double standards everywhere, folks. __________________ What goes around comes around. Sometimes you get what's coming around, and sometimes you are what's coming around. You see what I mean?

03-14-2011, 12:45 AM	#19
anthonyk WERA White Plate Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Austin, TX Moto: '01 Aprilia Falco Posts: 1,041	I dunno, out of all the examples of "men choose these job but not women," I don't see anything that clearly shows choice is the important factor. If women are applying but not getting hired, the gap is still pretty real.