When I'm Right I'm Right!!!

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Originally Posted by TYEster

LOL @ not enough. I suppose if she's just street riding where you guys are with all the upright highway stretch riding, "ok".


But just a little info for her, at tight, small, or otherwise technical track a 1000 has no more advantage than a 250.

Yea who said my girl was EVER going to go to the track? NOBODY!!!! We are street riders!

BTW I see that YOUR woman has a 750....

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Did I mention that the helmet that comes with it is a Shark RSR2? or that the jacket and gloves are A*s? Jesus, this deal is crazy! I sure hope that it all goes well for her!!!

[skiergirl]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Yea who said my girl was EVER going to go to the track? NOBODY!!!! We are street riders!

BTW I see that YOUR woman has a 750....

Yes I do and I learned first on dirt bikes, then on a ninja 250. I didn't need a 750 when I got one, it was just a cheap deal and I took it. When I was 18 and buying it all that really mattered was it's pretty colors.....

Several 750's later, I still don't ride it close to it's limits on the track and never will. I've been wanting to get something smaller for a long time, actually a 250 like the one in Tye's pic to be exact. It teaches you 10x's the riding skills you can get by over-compensating with the power of bigger heavier bikes.

Wish I had some extra cash cause I'd take that bike off your hands....

[TYEster]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Yea who said my girl was EVER going to go to the track? NOBODY!!!! We are street riders!

BTW I see that YOUR woman has a 750....

Ya true not everyone wants to get the most out of their bike.

BTW my girl can handle her 4th 750, she didnt just jump on it after 2 months of learning on a 250.

[Kerry_129]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

The way this works is, she sends the money-wire transfer to a third party bank. The bank holds the loot for 3 days while we look the bike over (it's being delivered btw), if we give the okay, the money is released to the seller. It seems iron clad to me, so we'll see how it goes...

Uhhhh, combined with the low price on the bike, at first glance it sounds very much like a possible scam to me. I'd check out the 'third party bank' thoroughly and ask for/read the fine print on the escrow conditions.

As for being 'right' - I don't think it's too hard when one strives to make a self-fulfilling prophesy. Has she ever heard anything other than 'OMG this thing is so slow' from you? In fairness, I guess I can understand a bit more since she's (presumably) riding flat/straight roads for the most part - but I can't help but wonder where her shift-points are. Not to beat a dead horse, but Kathy went through that phase of 'sick of being left behind' until she learned to keep it pinned and wring it out for everything it was worth. Then she progressed to the point she had no problem riding at the same pace as the 'fast' group except when the straightaway speeds went up into triple digits (of course, we're in a much more twisty area than you guys). Knowing first-hand what those little bikes are capable of at their (true) limits, it's just hard not to think 'bored with it' = 'not flogging the piss out of it like it needs'.

Anyway - careful with the transaction (maybe consider asking for an escrow service of her choice), and good luck to her w/ the purchase & new bike. That is a smokin' deal if it's legit!

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Originally Posted by Kerry_129

Uhhhh, combined with the low price on the bike, at first glance it sounds very much like a possible scam to me. I'd check out the 'third party bank' thoroughly and ask for/read the fine print on the escrow conditions.

As for being 'right' - I don't think it's too hard when one strives to make a self-fulfilling prophesy. Has she ever heard anything other than 'OMG this thing is so slow' from you? In fairness, I guess I can understand a bit more since she's (presumably) riding flat/straight roads for the most part - but I can't help but wonder where her shift-points are. Not to beat a dead horse, but Kathy went through that phase of 'sick of being left behind' until she learned to keep it pinned and wring it out for everything it was worth. Then she progressed to the point she had no problem riding at the same pace as the 'fast' group except when the straightaway speeds went up into triple digits (of course, we're in a much more twisty area than you guys). Knowing first-hand what those little bikes are capable of at their (true) limits, it's just hard not to think 'bored with it' = 'not flogging the piss out of it like it needs'.

Anyway - careful with the transaction (maybe consider asking for an escrow service of her choice), and good luck to her w/ the purchase & new bike. That is a smokin' deal if it's legit!

Yea I was worried but... it's thru EBay buyer protection and the bank is WaMu... She messaged Ebay about it and they assure her that it's on the up and up....

The other thing that gives me some confidence is the fact that my buddy that works at a dealer confirmed that the dealer would have only offered about $3500-4000 for the bike. He was saying that they are picking up repos at auctions for 2 or 3k and even got a '09 R1 for just over 5 grand a few weeks ago... Last Summer I did some work for a guy that owns a car dealership that sells bike in the Spring and he was picking up '06/'07/'08 GSXR1000s and 'Busas for around $5-6000 no bs.

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Oh and Kerry, Racer, track guys, etc... here's the thing, when did any of you EVER get the "maximum performance" out of any bike you owned before you upgraded? Kerry, you have a VFR, are you stating that you had gotten the absolute most you could get out of it before you got your GSXR? Oh and you especially, Racer, did you "max out" your last bike before getting that 'Busa? Of course not. None of us have.

Kerry, I understand that your old lady kept her 250 forever and learned to beat the fuck out of it and managed to keep up, yadda, yadda, yadda... My gf has taken the edges of her tires and I think that she does very well on that 250, as I have stated. I personally don't want her to upgrade until Spring BUT I cannot deny that if legit, this deal is too good to pass up. She has agreed to leave the bike parked until I say that she is ready. Trust me, there will be several very controlled rides before she takes that bike out alone. My point is that Cathy is the exception, NOT the rule and that is why I am "right".

For the type of riding , MOST of us do on the street, a 250 is the wrong starter bike in a lot of cases imho. BTW I still don't recommend a Super Sport for a first bike for most people but a 500/650 would probably be okay and give a "fast learner" or someone with some experience a better, more satisfying platform, to grow on. Besides, no one can deny that the 250 has a piss poor chassis, crappy brakes, and cobbled parts bin components. A GSXR 600's suspension and brakes are a million times better. Shit, I thought she was going to throw it in the weeds a few times because of the brakes and flexing/bottomed out front forks! She won't know what to do with herself once she gets a load the brakes and ride on this bad boy!!!

[OTB]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Yep, hey she did really well on both of these bikes! About $2500 on the 250 and this crazy $4000 on the 600... I was concerned but this guy has a 100% approval rating and has sold a bike and a car before on EBay. The way this works is, she sends the money-wire transfer to a third party bank. The bank holds the loot for 3 days while we look the bike over (it's being delivered btw), if we give the okay, the money is released to the seller. It seems iron clad to me, so we'll see how it goes...

FYI,

Tigger, I hope for your sakes this is a real deal, BUT

Unless the deal is done through a certified and licensed escrow corp, there is a pretty good chance you are being scammed.

If you propose an escrow service of your own and a shipper of your own and you start getting "excuses" for why you must use his service, it's a scam..

I always offer to fly out and inspect the bike and waive the waiting period, and whenever it's a scam I get the shell game..."the bikes not in city X, it's in their warehouse in city Y", or ""It's in a high security bonded area...blah blah blah...". Ok then I tell them I'll fly to city Y....either they stop replying or dream up another reason why i can't see the bike "in situ"..........and it's a scam..................



Let me guess; the bike is in another state, they (bank; ebay, moneybookers, ect.) handle all the shipping arrangements and your have (3 days/5 days/10 days) to examine and approve the merchandise. You would not be the first guy to have been snookered by somebody who hijacked someone else's ebay acct. Banks don't ship bikes...neither does ebay, escrow corps, or anybody but SHIPPERS.

Also, vehicles not purchased through ebay aren't eligible for buyer protection.

There's a pretty good chance that the "seller" used hijacked links to spoof sites to fool you.

Who knows, it might be legit, but my nose is twitching...........I've been wrong before....I think.............

[Rider]

Tigger,

If you haven't seen the bike in person, I'd stay clear of this deal. I'm paranoid about being scammed so maybe it's just me but this deal doesn't seem right.

You know the saying, if it sounds too good to be true, then usually it is...

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Originally Posted by Rider

Tigger,

If you haven't seen the bike in person, I'd stay clear of this deal. I'm paranoid about being scammed so maybe it's just me but this deal doesn't seem right.

You know the saying, if it sounds too good to be true, then usually it is...

Me too! Up until we had her bike in hand and the paperwork was done, I was sure that it was a scam because we found it on Craig's List. Oh well, never again, I can tell you that! She's been on CL for weeks trying to find a 600 and I kept telling her to wait, why waste time when she's not going to buy until next Spring. Then this ad came up and she's been working on me since Thursday to say it was okay.... I have to admit, these guys have a smooth deal going.

Here's the listing...
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/mcy/1399974176.html


The Photobucket account...
http://s562.photobucket.com/albums/ss63/DavidRVI/


The "EBay" listing has disappeared of course. Man, they have a slick operation, I have to admit! Everything looks perfectly on the up and up, EXCEPT the wire transfer... I told her the the start that she should only use Pay Pal but she wouldn't listen to me. The modified EBay listing promised her 3 days to check the bike out before the funds were released... Now the worst part is that, like all companies these days, her CU didn't process her stop request right away and sat on it for almost 2 hours before sending it through!!! She literally went back to the bank within an hour... Man, I hope that she didn't get screwed!!!

The only "positive" side to this whole thing is that the money she was spending was "free" in the sense that because her parents are divorced, she has three sets of Grandparents and two parents that send her money every month (at least $1000/month), on top of the huge grants that she gets because of her grades and the fact that she is in the medical field. Her classes cost under $2500 and she gets almost $6000 in grants, no bs. Plus she works as a pharmacy tech for Walgreens. She went to Europe this Spring and had almost no money when she got back. She paid her tuition, bought the 250, 3 helmets, three jackets, a helmet for me, her bike insurance (Mom pays for her car), chaps, misc gloves, clothes, paid off her credit cards, etc and she still has (maybe had) $6000 in her account before this deal! Heck, she'll still have $2000 even if she gets fucked with more money coming next semester. It's truly amazing...