Middle school student suspended for opening door - Page 2

goof2 · 03-03-2011, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

Even including firing people for it?

As for theft, you could (correctly) make the argument that theft is a risk at EVERY workplace. But some industries justify severe measures more than others. Defense contractor yes. Dippy little mortgage or insurance company no.

Maybe they should also require that laptops be screen-locked after a mere 10 seconds of inactivity, based on the remote possibility that someone might read or steal your data during those 10 seconds (more like 2-3 seconds since the thief would have to wait 7-8 seconds for the owner to walk away)

Sure, why not? If an employer is willing to trade the loss of productivity that would naturally result from a policy like that for the dubious additional security where is the problem? Either way having uncontrolled random people walking around their facility can be a bad idea for a number of reasons. I already mentioned theft, but there can be liability issues as well. I fail to see how setting a simple policy to prevent that is unreasonable.

Trip · 03-03-2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

Even including firing people for it?

As for theft, you could (correctly) make the argument that theft is a risk at EVERY workplace. But some industries justify severe measures more than others. Defense contractor yes. Dippy little mortgage or insurance company no.

Maybe they should also require that laptops be screen-locked after a mere 10 seconds of inactivity, based on the remote possibility that someone might read or steal your data during those 10 seconds (more like 2-3 seconds since the thief would have to wait 7-8 seconds for the owner to walk away)

If you leave your computer unlocked when you leave your desk where I am at, you can technically get in a lot of trouble for it. It's rarely enforced.

If you leave doors open, you will be talking to guys carrying assault rifles.

Kaneman · 03-03-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

What line of work was this? Unless it was a defense contractor, I can't see any private enterprise being worth that kind of security.

Sounds like a make-work project by HR dipshits with nothing better to do than interfere with the lives of those who pay their salary.

Auto finance. And it didn't have anything to do with security or the safety of employees. If they cared about that they wouldn't have made the entry wall out of BREAKABLE GLASS. No, this was simply an excuse to lay people off without paying unemployment once the economy started tanking and they needed to thin the herd.

pauldun170 · 03-03-2011, 11:55 AM

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All of the schools’ doors are locked during the day. Visitors must ring a buzzer and look into a camera before office personnel can let them in.

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Smith said everyone knew about the policy and its consequences.

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“We notified parents a week in advance once it was installed"

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...the “A” student opened the door for a woman he knew, who had her hands full.

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the student received a one-day, out-of-school suspension.

Kid decided rules were not worth following and he got suspended for 1 day.

Meh...
Alarmist story is alarmingly alarmist

Trip · 03-03-2011, 11:59 AM

suck it up kid, that's life. as stated above, people lose jobs for this reason. it's just good training for his future.

Tmall · 03-03-2011, 01:10 PM

I don't see the problem either. I assumed it was because he held it for a girl and that was taken as harassment. It wasn't.

Homeslice · 03-03-2011, 04:23 PM

Yeah but don't you work at a nuke plant?

That's a lot different than some generic business.

In most cases I think security policies are dreamed up to help IT & HR people justify their jobs.

Lamnidae · 03-06-2011, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

Yeah but don't you work at a nuke plant?

That's a lot different than some generic business.

In most cases I think security policies are dreamed up to help IT & HR people justify their jobs.

Nope.....

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Originally Posted by azoomm

That is exactly what I was thinking.

x2

101lifts2 · 03-04-2011, 11:34 PM

It is a cover your ass policy so the school will not get sued if something happens to a kid. Hence the punishment.

tallywacker · 03-04-2011, 11:45 PM

I'd do it as a way to get outta school that my parents wouldn't have been pissed at me for.

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Trip Hold mah beer! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: 80 Miles South of Moto Heaven Moto: 08 R1200GS Posts: 23,268	suck it up kid, that's life. as stated above, people lose jobs for this reason. it's just good training for his future.

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Tmall Aspiring Rapper Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Halifax, NS Moto: '12 CB1000R Posts: 3,569	I don't see the problem either. I assumed it was because he held it for a girl and that was taken as harassment. It wasn't.

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Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	Yeah but don't you work at a nuke plant? That's a lot different than some generic business. In most cases I think security policies are dreamed up to help IT & HR people justify their jobs.