Legalize it. - Page 2

Apoc · 11-12-2012, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangerscott

We had a dude drive into a house that was using synthetic dope. I wouldnt sign it.

Ya, cuz nobody ever drove into a house drunk. Or sober.

Reminds me of when tmall and I were getting all fucked up one day, passing around a couple of 40's of whiskey and a bunch of dope, and a guy from nearby stopped in for a drink.

"What you guys doing tonight?"
"Dunno, think i'm gonna get drunk, steal my mothers car, and roll it"

He kept his word. Epic! (for us, it left him mildly retarded)

dubbs · 11-12-2012, 07:34 PM

Was looking at the other open petitions that have a lot of signatures.. a lot of states want to secede from the Union..

goof2 · 11-12-2012, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

Did you know that marijuana......

Yes, stoners won't shut up about it and they tend to repeat themselves.

Homeslice · 11-12-2012, 09:44 PM

I used to look down on stoners, and at the same time think it was cool to get drunk.....total hypocrisy. It's total bs that one is allowed, and the other not.

Hell, if the gov't really wanted to "protect" society, they would enforce a nicotine reduction in the cig industry. Nicotine levels have been "mysteriously" increasing over the years.

Papa_Complex · 11-13-2012, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

Ok, that last one was a trick... nobody has ever died from using marijuana.

That's not quite true. It's just that it wasn't the weed that killed them. Remember that US government plan to wipe out the crops by spraying them with herbicide? The weed survived and the herbicide killed people. People have also died in car accidents while high on weed.

My only objection to legalization is that there are no valid medical testing methods to show that someone was impaired while driving. THC content in blood isn't like BAC for alcohol. Find a method of showing impairment and I'm all for it. It's not like people aren't already screwy on the wacky tobaccy while driving. Hell, I could smell it coming out of two cars I was driving behind, on my way home last night. I just figure that legalizing it will compound an existing problem.

OneSickPsycho · 11-13-2012, 07:45 AM

You're correct... I was referring to the fact that the plant itself has never killed anyone.

As far as impairment - yes, no breathalyzer test would work, however a field sobriety test most certainly would.

Papa_Complex · 11-13-2012, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

You're correct... I was referring to the fact that the plant itself has never killed anyone.

As far as impairment - yes, no breathalyzer test would work, however a field sobriety test most certainly would.

The problem being that there is then no medical evidence of impairment, other than the officer's opinion. How many drunks have gotten off charges for the same reason?

shmike · 11-13-2012, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

The problem being that there is then no medical evidence of impairment, other than the officer's opinion. How many drunks have gotten off charges for the same reason?

There doesn't have to be.

Part of the reason for the change from DWI to DUI was the language.

"Under the influence" is a very vague term that can be applied to anything from alcohol to prescription drugs to sleep deprivation.

Papa_Complex · 11-13-2012, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by shmike

There doesn't have to be.

Part of the reason for the change from DWI to DUI was the language.

"Under the influence" is a very vague term that can be applied to anything from alcohol to prescription drugs to sleep deprivation.

If you can't OBJECTIVELY prove intoxication, you can't guarantee conviction. Far too many drunks have gotten off using the same basic issue, and that's when a valid test actually exists. Such a test does not exist for THC.

shmike · 11-13-2012, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

If you can't OBJECTIVELY prove intoxication, you can't guarantee conviction. Far too many drunks have gotten off using the same basic issue, and that's when a valid test actually exists. Such a test does not exist for THC.

You can't guarantee conviction even with objective proof.

My point was that there are other offenses that you can be charged with that don't have scientific testing methods available.

Keeping MJ illegal because of the DUI boogeyman is ridiculous.

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Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	I used to look down on stoners, and at the same time think it was cool to get drunk.....total hypocrisy. It's total bs that one is allowed, and the other not. Hell, if the gov't really wanted to "protect" society, they would enforce a nicotine reduction in the cig industry. Nicotine levels have been "mysteriously" increasing over the years. Last edited by Homeslice; 11-12-2012 at 09:48 PM..

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OneSickPsycho Ride Like an Asshole Join Date: Feb 2008 Moto: nothing... Posts: 11,254	You're correct... I was referring to the fact that the plant itself has never killed anyone. As far as impairment - yes, no breathalyzer test would work, however a field sobriety test most certainly would.