Vietnam Memorial

[rider76]

as Cutty said.. thank you Nhnutgun.. I wish more people thought like you...

[DLIT]

We posted the colors when I was doing Honor Guard one year at a moving wall in NV one day. It's impressive.

[ceo012384]

I've been to the original and the guard changing at the unknown soldier tomb like GM was saying. Very impressive monuments.

I looked up a couple family/friend/etc folks on the vietnam wall and took a rubbing. It was pretty heavy stuff

[VatorMan]

Been there several times. No life is "wasted" Big Ted.Your skewed viiews need to be checked.

[z06boy]

Yes I have.

Originally Posted by nhgunnut

The Wall is a very moving place for me and many of my generation.
While I am not commenting on the moral or political grounds of either conflict, but as a child of the times of Vietnam I feel it is worth pointing out one significant difference between Iraq and Vietnam.
The armed forces in Iraq are all volunteers (and if you are in Uniform THANK YOU for your service where ever it is) Vietnam on the other hand was largely staffed by conscripts. Young men whose only choice was to go in the service or flee the country!
One of my strongest memories as a high school student was listening to a group 0f 17 year olds discussing their SAT score like their lives depended on them BECAUSE THEY DID! One later died “In Country”
One other difference the troops coming home now are much less likely to be greeted by name calling or being spit on.
Whether you support the ideals of the war or not, we dam sure need to support our troops, it is because those Brave Men and Woman Volunteered that we do not have a draft. That means be cause they choose to waer the uniform YOU dont HAVE To
So next time you are thinking about buying an extra 12 pack or superfluous piece of gear you might send $5. To the USO and make the lives those who wear our uniforms a little more bearable.

Rick...real nice post man.

[comonboys]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

That is a place I definatly need to get to sometime.
Just has to be done.

Take some vacation time next year and we'll go.. I am all for it.

[Dave]

hey no worries, thank you for your service. what did you guys train on? M47 pattons?

and nhgunnut, no one may be spitting on us but (IMO) a lot of those welcome backs felt very hollow and lot of people treat you very diffrently when they know you've been to war.

[No Worries]

Originally Posted by Dave

hey no worries, thank you for your service. what did you guys train on? M47 pattons?

and nhgunnut, no one may be spitting on us but (IMO) a lot of those welcome backs felt very hollow and lot of people treat you very diffrently when they know you've been to war.

I trained on M48's at Fort Knox. Diesel fuel and 52 tons of steel. I had to pull start a small gas engine to charge up the numerous batteries. Then the batteries could crank the high-compression diesel engine. Two-speed auto. In Nam I drove an aluminum M113, armored personnel carrier. Three-speed auto. Like a sports car compared to the M48.

As for being treated differently when you've been to war: Yeah, you've gotten in the ring, you've given the speech in front of an audience, you've had to kill or be killed, and you faced down your fears and survived. Many people never face any of their fears.

[mondos06cbr1000]

Originally Posted by jetskifast

Seen it, mad me sad to see all the wasted lives
Just like Iraq, many great American lives will go to waste

That might be your own view, but the men and women who died over there certainly dont believe that their lives went to waste. They gave there lives so that others may have a better life...but its your own opinion and believe what you want. Just show a little respect.

but yea I've been there, pretty touching. I've also been to the American Cemetary on Omaha Beach in Normandy, also really moving

[Dave]

Originally Posted by No Worries

I trained on M48's at Fort Knox. Diesel fuel and 52 tons of steel. I had to pull start a small gas engine to charge up the numerous batteries. Then the batteries could crank the high-compression diesel engine. Two-speed auto. In Nam I drove an aluminum M113, armored personnel carrier. Three-speed auto. Like a sports car compared to the M48.

As for being treated differently when you've been to war: Yeah, you've gotten in the ring, you've given the speech in front of an audience, you've had to kill or be killed, and you faced down your fears and survived. Many people never face any of their fears.

nice, my father was on m60s and m48s whereas I spent my time on m1a2s

love the acav too but the m1 can smoke it