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Old 09-06-2008, 12:06 PM   #191
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It's called college... without student loans, I couldn't have done it.
there are other options out there, though i understand not everyone is willing to sacrifice 8 years of their life
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Old 09-06-2008, 02:50 PM   #192
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fuck the whole government.. they are fucking us in the ass daily and we beg and plead them to give us more.. we need to seriously start a revolution and do some shit that makes sense.. these motherfuckers are the puppets of big corporation who do whatever they want and grease their fucking palms and we suffer because of it.. they are polluting our planet ruining our environment, they have insatiable greed that can never be satisfied and then have no morals or care for anyone's well being but themselves.. and we doing exactly what they want us to because we are stupid.. we are lazy.. we are seriously fucking pathetic.. we need to decommercial - stop buying the PS3s, the WIIs, the new cars, the grocery store processed artificial crap food, watching movies at the show, buying cable tv, etc. - we need to each become self sufficient and only buy what we absolutely need.. then sit back and watch them choke to death as their wallow in their own crapulence..
Yeah that's the Mudpuppy rants that I love and enjoy!!! I miss these.

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Old 09-06-2008, 05:38 PM   #193
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You must be really pissed that McCain chose a regular person with a backbone as a VP. Unlike Mister CHANGE with 35 year WASHINGTON vet BIDEN!!
You know what I am not..... I know its all politics Obama picked Biden because people criticize Obama on his lack of experiance so why not pick the guy who has been in the Senate for the longest time... And people criticize McCain on being too liberal so he picked the farthest right candidate and it doesnt hurt that she is a woman so now he has a minority on his ticket as well. It will be interesting how it all pans out history will be made either way. But fuck it we all know the americans vote doesnt pick your president anyways its the Electorial college so why should I waste any more energy on this subject.
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Old 09-06-2008, 07:37 PM   #194
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there are other options out there, though i understand not everyone is willing to sacrifice 8 years of their life
Sucking cock for change under bridges may have worked well for you, but that's not my style.
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Old 09-06-2008, 07:45 PM   #195
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You know what I am not..... I know its all politics Obama picked Biden because people criticize Obama on his lack of experiance so why not pick the guy who has been in the Senate for the longest time... And people criticize McCain on being too liberal so he picked the farthest right candidate and it doesnt hurt that she is a woman so now he has a minority on his ticket as well. It will be interesting how it all pans out history will be made either way. But fuck it we all know the americans vote doesnt pick your president anyways its the Electorial college so why should I waste any more energy on this subject.
Doesn't anyone know what our government is about,was founded on,or how it works?

Electoral votes are based on districts with each district getting an allotment of votes based on population. If a candidate wins that district,he gets all of their electoral votes. Now a candidate can lose by a landslide in several districts but if in the end he wins more district votes,even if he won the districts by only one vote each,he will become President. Several Presidents have been inaugurated without winning the "popular" vote.

To simplify, if the country was broken up in 100 districts and each district had 1 vote with a population of 100. Candidate C wins all the popular votes in 49 districts for a total of 4900 popular votes and 49 electoral votes. Candidate B only wins his districts by 2 votes but he wins 51 districts for totals of 2601 popular votes and 51 electoral votes. What really skews the numbers is that candidate C also won 49 votes in each of candidate B's winning districts which brings his popular vote total to 7399. So even though candidate C has almost 3X candidate B's popular vote he would still not be President.

Hey I didn't design the system...
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Old 09-06-2008, 09:05 PM   #196
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Doesn't anyone know what our government is about,was founded on,or how it works?

Electoral votes are based on districts with each district getting an allotment of votes based on population. If a candidate wins that district,he gets all of their electoral votes. Now a candidate can lose by a landslide in several districts but if in the end he wins more district votes,even if he won the districts by only one vote each,he will become President. Several Presidents have been inaugurated without winning the "popular" vote.

To simplify, if the country was broken up in 100 districts and each district had 1 vote with a population of 100. Candidate C wins all the popular votes in 49 districts for a total of 4900 popular votes and 49 electoral votes. Candidate B only wins his districts by 2 votes but he wins 51 districts for totals of 2601 popular votes and 51 electoral votes. What really skews the numbers is that candidate C also won 49 votes in each of candidate B's winning districts which brings his popular vote total to 7399. So even though candidate C has almost 3X candidate B's popular vote he would still not be President.

Hey I didn't design the system...

It's not a perfect system by any means, but generally people who bitch about the EC have no fucking idea what they are talking about. Without the EC, or some sort of balancing mechanism, nobody would campaign in half, if not 2/3 of the states in the country... People in Iowa would have ZERO say in who their leader was...
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Old 09-06-2008, 09:23 PM   #197
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It's not a perfect system by any means, but generally people who bitch about the EC have no fucking idea what they are talking about. Without the EC, or some sort of balancing mechanism, nobody would campaign in half, if not 2/3 of the states in the country... People in Iowa would have ZERO say in who their leader was...
who cares where they campaign? Politicians look more at demographics than they do locations. Whens the last time you've actually attended a campaign event? last time i went to one, i never even got in the damn door. I'll let the news tell me who to vote for.

But im voting for the hot chick anyways.
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Old 09-06-2008, 09:37 PM   #198
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It's not a perfect system by any means, but generally people who bitch about the EC have no fucking idea what they are talking about. Without the EC, or some sort of balancing mechanism, nobody would campaign in half, if not 2/3 of the states in the country... People in Iowa would have ZERO say in who their leader was...

Not to mention that it helps minimize cheating. To be honest with you,it never ceases to amaze me how little someone with a college degree knows in this country. These are basic governmental concepts that I learned in junior high school. Shit,some of this stuff I learned from "Timer" in between cartoons on Sat mornings. People don't know how laws are passed,how funds are dispersed, basic economic systems. Everybody just sits around blaming someone,usually the President.

It's funny really,take the Iraq war for example. We could not have even gone to war without the support of the Congress. Even now,the Congress (Dem controlled,btw) could stop the war whenever they choose by not funding it.

The Congress levies taxes,including fuel taxes,they could suspend the tax to ease the burden on the people if they wanted. They could pass laws making all cars electric and all houses solar by 2020 if they wanted,they could outlaw incandescent bulbs,fluorocarbons, strip mining, and anything else that is supposedly "causing" global warming. They could take half the money spent on "foreign aid" a year and build windmills in this country and have us off coal in 20 years or less.
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Old 09-06-2008, 09:46 PM   #199
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who cares where they campaign? Politicians look more at demographics than they do locations. Whens the last time you've actually attended a campaign event? last time i went to one, i never even got in the damn door. I'll let the news tell me who to vote for.

But im voting for the hot chick anyways.
The question is... would they spend the money to put their campaign commerical on TV in South Dakota? Nope. There would be a real possiblity of millions of people who've never even heard of their president...
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The question is... would they spend the money to put their campaign commerical on TV in South Dakota? Nope. There would be a real possiblity of millions of people who've never even heard of their president...

Newspapers. News. internet. magazines. I think they can do without the smear campaigns.

Who the hell bases their vote of of campaign commercials???

(oh ya, pretty much all the asshats that vote)
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