First fa-22 fighters delivered to langley - Page 3

pauldun170 · 02-25-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

I think it woulda been a bad mother with just experienced pilots. Too bad we had Japan by the jugular by then and were already bombing the industrial complex.

They would have required experience pilots (oops Japan let all their experienced officers die in the field without transferring the knowledge gained to new pilots..scratch that idea)
Quality manufacturing (oops scratch that)
Quality support system (and how many serviceable aircraft languished on Japanese airbases because support crews couldn't manage decent field repair?)

Japan lacked 2 key elements from midwar on...good pilots and good crews to support the AC.

Even if we were at stalemate at the time of the Shinden, Japan doomed itself from the start in terms of command and control and the way their forces were structured.

smileyman · 02-25-2009, 02:58 PM

I for one am especially proud that they never worked out a proper pilot rotation. The air war over the pacific was bloody beyond brutal (like it wasn't anywhere else) but I would have hated to give up any advantage that would have cost either side more lives.

I suppose that is my appreciation of the pilots that flew these missions on both sides and in every war. Pilots first, brave duty bound fellows, they did their part and ask no quarter. Could we aspire to such a lofty virtue?

Lamnidae · 02-25-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

....I have also read his "Fork Tailed Devil" about the P38 from development to service. Good stuff.

Was just catching up, saw all this stuff rolling back to Dub Dub Deuce and was like "WTF? P47's and P51's and what not, WTF where's hte P-38!"

God they had some good times in the P-38. My personal fav of WWII.

Corey · 02-25-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Amblyopic

Was just catching up, saw all this stuff rolling back to Dub Dub Deuce and was like "WTF? P47's and P51's and what not, WTF where's hte P-38!"

God they had some good times in the P-38. My personal fav of WWII.

That's a hell of a sweet shot. If you've got it in a massive 1900x1200 size, that'd be my new wallpaper.

Dave · 02-25-2009, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Amblyopic

Was just catching up, saw all this stuff rolling back to Dub Dub Deuce and was like "WTF? P47's and P51's and what not, WTF where's hte P-38!"

God they had some good times in the P-38. My personal fav of WWII.

the lightning was a sweet plane no doubt but whats up with the yoke? Stick please. Reminds me of the wierd ass stick on the F106 delta dart. My number two favorite plane from the century series in its ''six shooter'' configuration

Adeptus_Minor · 02-25-2009, 09:38 PM

I really enjoyed the episode of 'Dogfights!' that highlighted the P-38.
If I recall correctly, the pilot said that once you learned to reign in all the power, it made you feel invincible.

Two of us? 12 of them? No problem.

Dave · 02-25-2009, 02:23 PM

nice. There used to be a clip of one of its only test flights on youtube

Dave · 02-26-2009, 03:02 PM

haha i love it (the bullet thing)

the chi · 02-26-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

haha i love it (the bullet thing)

Even let him hold the rifle with the ginormous scope that he'd be shooting it from. heh heh heh.

Dave · 02-27-2009, 01:37 PM

hey come on now! That shiet is mad tyte jdm yo! :Lol: do gotta admit its a bamf

02-25-2009, 02:58 PM	#2
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	I for one am especially proud that they never worked out a proper pilot rotation. The air war over the pacific was bloody beyond brutal (like it wasn't anywhere else) but I would have hated to give up any advantage that would have cost either side more lives. I suppose that is my appreciation of the pilots that flew these missions on both sides and in every war. Pilots first, brave duty bound fellows, they did their part and ask no quarter. Could we aspire to such a lofty virtue? __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

02-25-2009, 09:38 PM	#6
Adeptus_Minor Hopster Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Austin, TX Moto: 2009 Buell 1125R Posts: 4,743	I really enjoyed the episode of 'Dogfights!' that highlighted the P-38. If I recall correctly, the pilot said that once you learned to reign in all the power, it made you feel invincible. Two of us? 12 of them? No problem. __________________ “Well, obviously before; after was all gendarmes and dick stitches.”

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Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	nice. There used to be a clip of one of its only test flights on youtube

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Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	haha i love it (the bullet thing)

02-27-2009, 01:37 PM	#10
Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	hey come on now! That shiet is mad tyte jdm yo! :Lol: do gotta admit its a bamf