KTM Super Duke

[FT BSTRD]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

Right.
Buell is definatly working on the probs.
My gripe is the mags. If it's a buell, they rip it apart. If it's any European or Jap bike, then they are just minor probs, but nothing major.

Yeah, but Buell doesn't do anything to help decrease the problems either.

Why the HELL they keep putting those shitty stock pads on bikes is beyond me. Put on Lyndalls from the factory and be done with it. The stock pads are horrible for feel. I think much of the bitching about the ZTL system is the pads used.

Why doesn't Buell set up the bikes per the rider. Instead they allow these monkeys to do the usual set up that they do for every other bike and wonder why the bike feels "sluggish" or "twitchy". Read a manual once in a while folks.

You only get one time to set a first impression. Buell seems to revel in blowing that opportunity EVERY TIME!

[Cutty72]

Originally Posted by FT BSTRD

Yeah, but Buell doesn't do anything to help decrease the problems either.

Why the HELL they keep putting those shitty stock pads on bikes is beyond me. Put on Lyndalls from the factory and be done with it. The stock pads are horrible for feel. I think much of the bitching about the ZTL system is the pads used.

Why doesn't Buell set up the bikes per the rider. Instead they allow these monkeys to do the usual set up that they do for every other bike and wonder why the bike feels "sluggish" or "twitchy". Read a manual once in a while folks.

You only get one time to set a first impression. Buell seems to revel in blowing that opportunity EVERY TIME!

I don't think the pads are THAT bad... my experiences are limited however, newer R1's being the only repliracer bikes that I've been able to ride aggressively.
Though I will be getting something different when these wear out. Maybe then I will realize the diff.
As for the set up. Yes, the mags should do it. I know they do it on the Ducs and jap bikes.

[FT BSTRD]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

I don't think the pads are THAT bad... my experiences are limited however, newer R1's being the only repliracer bikes that I've been able to ride aggressively.
Though I will be getting something different when these wear out. Maybe then I will realize the diff.
As for the set up. Yes, the mags should do it. I know they do it on the Ducs and jap bikes.

The problem is that because the other makes all have fairly similar geometry and suspensions, the settings are similar from bike to bike. The Buell geometry requires model specific settings. Rarely do the magazine people take the time to actually read the manual and set the suspension per the manual.

Their attitude is that "I know how to set up a bike. I don't need some book to tell me how."

[marko138]

Originally Posted by FT BSTRD

It really depends on your perspective. I believe that much of the issues were Buell's fault. There WERE fueling issues.

The FZ1 had HORRIBLE fueling issues.


The issue isn't whether one company has issues or not. It's whether they deal quickly and effectively with those issues. Buell has. I believe KTM is working on it.

They hadn't gotten it sorted out by last October for the 2009 models.


It is a bit of a double standard. The most recent review of the 1125CR claimed it was "cramped". WTF? Did they have Andre the Giant testing?

The 1125 platform is one of the roomiest of sportbike models out right now.


It's just magazines. The writers carry their own biases onto the pages.

Yep, never understood why either. You think they would get behind an American who puts so much into his bikes and has so much passion for what he does.

Originally Posted by Cutty72

Right.
Buell is definatly working on the probs.
My gripe is the mags. If it's a buell, they rip it apart. If it's any European or Jap bike, then they are just minor probs, but nothing major.

Fuckers. Such shit.

[Cutty72]

Originally Posted by FT BSTRD

The problem is that because the other makes all have fairly similar geometry and suspensions, the settings are similar from bike to bike. The Buell geometry requires model specific settings. Rarely do the magazine people take the time to actually read the manual and set the suspension per the manual.

Their attitude is that "I know how to set up a bike. I don't need some book to tell me how."

Gotcha, I get what you are saying now.

[Scot]

It's a naked superhawk with higher end braking and suspension components. The one I rode was dodgy at lower RPM even with the updated flash. The local dealer here was blowing them out for 9k. IMO, it's a good bike for 9K. 12k, no.