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Old 12-10-2008, 08:09 PM   #21
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Machines break because they were:
not maintained improperly.
designed improperly.
manufactured incorrectly.

Accidents like this happen because:
machines break
pilot error.

in each an every one of these cases - there is fault to be applied.
No there isn't.

F-1 cars are built much like military aircraft. Exacting tolerences, the best materials money can buy, an emphasis on performance, balanced with the knowledge that someone's life depends on your shit working properly.

But sometimes, they break anyway.

If humans knew everything there was to know, about how to build shit so it would never break, shit wouldn't break.

You don't.

That's why shit breaks.

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Old 12-10-2008, 08:18 PM   #22
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So if you hit a deer in your car is it your fault or the guy that built your car? There are to many varibles in this world to think you can control them all.

IT COULD HAVE BEEN A BIRD STRIKE! As I said in my last post that you freaking quoted for God sake. You don't know that anyone was at fault but your ready to blame everyone.
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Old 12-10-2008, 09:26 PM   #23
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No there isn't.

F-1 cars are built much like military aircraft. Exacting tolerences, the best materials money can buy, an emphasis on performance, balanced with the knowledge that someone's life depends on your shit working properly.

But sometimes, they break anyway.

If humans knew everything there was to know, about how to build shit so it would never break, shit wouldn't break.

You don't.

That's why shit breaks.

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Aren't Millitary aircraft built by the lowest bidder?
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Old 12-10-2008, 09:32 PM   #24
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If you think Lockheed Martin is the lowest bidder you got another thing coming.
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Old 12-10-2008, 09:34 PM   #25
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If you think Lockheed Martin is the lowest bidder you got another thing coming.
They probably outbid the competion, otherwise contract to build this plane probably go to some other corp.

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Old 12-10-2008, 11:28 PM   #26
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That poor guy..

In 96' an F14 took out three of houses here in Nashville. The pilot did a full power takeoff, basically straight up on afterburners, flamed out at the top and dropped like a rock into a neighborhood. Killed 5 including him and the Nav Ofc.
Planes and house's are a bad mix..
It was just down the road from my sister...she knew them in passing...freaked everyone out. Someone I know was in the gold building on Briley...said it looked like the pilot fought the plane to keep it from hitting the building (highly populated) and tried to aim it away...sad...
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:15 AM   #27
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Aren't Millitary aircraft built by the lowest bidder?
No, they're built by the people with the highest paid lobbyists.

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Old 12-11-2008, 12:38 AM   #28
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Pretty damn gracious and understanding of the guy. He just lost his whole family and he didn't blame anybody.

I hope that the US government would be smart enough to just settle with the guy for millions of dollars of compensation. Can't bring back the family, but that's the least Uncle Sam can do.
Yeah leave it to a Korean guy to show how it is to be a true stand up american.

And I agree... uncle sam should step up!
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:43 AM   #29
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Damn. That was from the father. How much worse can you get than loosing your entire family. Simply an amazing man right there. I wish him the best.
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Old 12-11-2008, 03:30 AM   #30
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I'm sorry but unless there is some reason that plane should not have been in the sky, like it needed some part replaced and they knew it. Or it had not been inspected. Then there really is not a case. That is as long as it was maintained properly. Its really no ones fault.

Sad as all hell, but no ones fault.

Its a machine, machines break. It might have been a bird strike or some thing are you going to sue the bird for flying near a airport?
It doesn't matter. The pilot is in control of the aircraft regardless of mechanical failure.

If I run into the back of a car because of brake failure I'm still at fault.

RIP to the fallen. The father has hella character IMO...a good man.
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