Apple without Steve

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Dave

the only thing anyone should care about is this brick has a quad core and they only bumped the battery by about 10mah


In any case, who can really be surprised that a company that doesnt build anything, that locks down built in features so they can crack them later to bump sales, that needs to sue their own suppliers to stay relevant, that forces their own proprietary connectors and software wasnt going to stay at the bleeding edge? only a yogurt.

The CDMA/LTE on the same chip turned out to be a bust because they didn't design the antennas right again. They killed one of the best features of Verizon going LTE. It's the only LTE phone EVAR on Verizon not capable of doing voice and data at the same time on the Verizon network. Even the first phone, the Thunderbolt, could accomplish this feat. I don't know if Sprint had any LTE phones not capable of doing voice and data, but it can't do it there either.

The processor is pretty bad ass if it's true they got the A15 in it. Want to see the improvements to the Retina screen. It still is in the top 3 of best screen tech.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Trip

The CDMA/LTE on the same chip turned out to be a bust because they didn't design the antennas right again. They killed one of the best features of Verizon going LTE. It's the only LTE phone EVAR on Verizon not capable of doing voice and data at the same time on the Verizon network. Even the first phone, the Thunderbolt, could accomplish this feat. I don't know if Sprint had any LTE phones not capable of doing voice and data, but it can't do it there either.

My understanding is that you can't talk & tether at the same time on CDMA phones, but you can on GSM phones, right?

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

My understanding is that you can't talk & tether at the same time on CDMA phones, but you can on GSM phones, right?

This only applies to 3G, well except in Apple's situation it's different.

In 3G GSM, you can talk and use data(tether) at the same time.

In 3G CDMA, you can't talk and use data at the same time.

4G, GSM is LTE. Nothing changes for GSM.

Verizon and Sprint both have been going GSM for their 4G. But they are both still using CDMA for voice calls.

Android phones and Windows phones on Verizon and Sprint have seperate radios for CDMA and LTE. So while you are using the CDMA radio for voice, the LTE radio can do data if you are in a LTE area.

iPhone 5 has both it's CDMA and LTE radio on one chip. The way they designed that phone, they didn't make it so the LTE and CDMA could work at the same time to save on design costs so it's very similar to the AT&T iPhone 5. All they would have had to do was put one more antenna on the phone and voice/data would of worked at the same time.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Trip

Android phones and Windows phones on Verizon and Sprint have seperate radios for CDMA and LTE. So while you are using the CDMA radio for voice, the LTE radio can do data if you are in a LTE area.

Buddy of mine says he can't do it on his Verizon Incredible. Same with a guy who has an S2 on sprint wimax.

[RACER X]

Verizon iPhone 5 Will Not Offer Simultaneous Voice and Data(verizon& most likely sprint) [Update: It Was A Hardware Decision]

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/09/13/...oice-and-data/

[OneSickPsycho]

ONSSP just ordered the iPhone 5...

She's wanted an iPhone forever... friends of ours made a good point last night... who cares about a bunch of new features that most people will never use, supposedly the maps thing blows Google maps out of the water (we will see about that), and the fucking things just work. That last one stuck with me pretty well... All of my Android/Blackberry experience shares one common denominator - fucking shit fucks up. Droid not as bad as Blackberry, but it still locks up, loads fucked up, and does some quirky shit sometimes... And that's never something I've heard from the iPhone users... We'll see with this being an new release...

[Trip]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

ONSSP just ordered the iPhone 5...

She's wanted an iPhone forever... friends of ours made a good point last night... who cares about a bunch of new features that most people will never use, supposedly the maps thing blows Google maps out of the water (we will see about that), and the fucking things just work. That last one stuck with me pretty well... All of my Android/Blackberry experience shares one common denominator - fucking shit fucks up. Droid not as bad as Blackberry, but it still locks up, loads fucked up, and does some quirky shit sometimes... And that's never something I've heard from the iPhone users... We'll see with this being an new release...

Whoever told you the maps blow google s out of the water fucking lied.

My wife and I have been using the new maps since they came out in beta. They need a lot of work. They use tom tom routing and that sucks ass. It doesn't know half the shit Google can find too. They are pretty though.

[OneSickPsycho]

Yep, well scratch that thing anyway... turns out it's CHEAPER to buy the fucking phone outright and keep our current plan, than to get the discounted price and a new, revised, contract. FUCK THAT.

We are now in the market for a 4S for Verizon... anyone?

[Trip]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

Yep, well scratch that thing anyway... turns out it's CHEAPER to buy the fucking phone outright and keep our current plan, than to get the discounted price and a new, revised, contract. FUCK THAT.

We are now in the market for a 4S for Verizon... anyone?

yeah losing unlimited is a tough pill and $749 for a 32gig outright is another big tough pill compared to some of the new androids the are lower out of the gate. Verizon also getting you for $30 to upgrade your phone even at full price for "teaching seminars" is fucking bullshit.

Originally Posted by azoomm

I have a 32gig 4s for Verizon. I was going to wait, but.....

Those jones' are evil sons a bitches.

[azoomm]

I have a 32gig 4s for Verizon. I was going to wait, but.....