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Old 09-14-2010, 12:09 PM   #21
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I can't see why it's so hard to believe that holes were seen, and exploited in the security of both the airline industry and immigration, then coordinated between SCHEDULED flights that coincided at the same time to allow for all 4 planes to be in the air at the same time.
The idea behind an attack is to strike multiple areas at one time with the same tactics….that’s what happened.
2 planes were successful and 2 were not.
What’s so hard to believe?

If it wasn’t a plane that hit the pentagon, then WHERE did that plane go? WHERE did those people die? Did they up and disappear like a fart in the wind? Bermuda triangle? Where did THAT plane go if not into the side of the heavily fortified pentagon?
I did some CA (construct. Admin.) work there a few years ago fielding change order requests due to lack of prior knowledge of solid filled walls where we showed routing piping. That place is built to withstand more than what a commercial airliner could destroy….as evidence of what happened.
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:12 PM   #22
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I dont buy it all...I know there were things the govt covered up after the fact...the news stories themselves changed more drastically than just more details would account for...as far as LIHOP or MIHOP, neither. As crooked as our govt could be, I cant possibly imagine they would allow such a tragedy at such cost simply to start a war.
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:17 PM   #23
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No I don't believe everything the government tells me but I'm definitely NOT a 9/11 conspiracy nut either. Some of the conspiracy theories actually make me .
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:18 PM   #24
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There's a surprise....
Yea, yea, I know...stoner doesn't trust the govt...not exactly a news flash huh?

But I see all the things the Federal Government has lied feverishly about in the past, using insane lies, racism, propaganda campaigns, tugging on heart strings, thinking about the children, etc. etc. and I don't put anything past them.

A healthy dose of skepticism, IMO, is much better than simply believing everything they spoon feed you without question...which is what most people seem to do.
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:28 PM   #25
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Yea, yea, I know...stoner doesn't trust the govt...not exactly a news flash huh?

But I see all the things the Federal Government has lied feverishly about in the past, using insane lies, racism, propaganda campaigns, tugging on heart strings, thinking about the children, etc. etc. and I don't put anything past them.

A healthy dose of skepticism, IMO, is much better than simply believing everything they spoon feed you without question...which is what most people seem to do.
Dude, it is a huge jump from "i don't believe everything they say" to "they allowed thousands of people to die to start a war". Again, even if some govt nut had some prior knowledge of the attack, that doesn't put Bush into the picture. The shear volume of people that would have to know something like that before it got to Bush is staggering... I guess you believe that they went out and killed everyone that knew about it as well... Yeesh....
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:30 PM   #26
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I guess you believe that they went out and killed everyone that knew about it as well... Yeesh....
it worked in goodfellas
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Dude, it is a huge jump from "i don't believe everything they say" to "they allowed thousands of people to die to start a war". Again, even if some govt nut had some prior knowledge of the attack, that doesn't put Bush into the picture. The shear volume of people that would have to know something like that before it got to Bush is staggering... I guess you believe that they went out and killed everyone that knew about it as well... Yeesh....
I never said anything about Bush...but you did twice. You know something we don't know Tig? Are you implying that you yourself were complicit in the 9/11 attacks? Something fishy is going on here...
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Dude, it is a huge jump from "i don't believe everything they say" to "they allowed thousands of people to die to start a war". Again, even if some govt nut had some prior knowledge of the attack, that doesn't put Bush into the picture. The shear volume of people that would have to know something like that before it got to Bush is staggering.
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:37 PM   #29
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BTW why don't people look for conspiracies when its something that fits there own political agenda? How about the idea that there was a conspiracy to discredit Bush and his administration to further the Democratic party's agenda... Heck, maybe the Libs planned the whole attack so they could make Bush look bad.... Maybe Obama , Pelosi, Biden, etc are actually Muslims taking over our country...
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Old 09-14-2010, 12:37 PM   #30
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If this thread is an indication of the level of distrust with the current system-I'll ask one simple question.

Why do you keep sending these same assholes to DC ?
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