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Old 07-08-2011, 04:34 PM   #21
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The only flaw in their plan of keeping Americans dumb, fat, ignorant, scared, and voting Republican is that now we're just all too dumb and fat to compete on an International level at all anymore, and the rest of the world is eating our lunch.

We were so far ahead of the rest of the civilized world previously, that this wasn't even a consideration before...only now they've all caught up (and in most cases, passed us...we're 17th in education now), and that plan is starting to backfire miserably.

We either need to educate, or rely on the growing strengths of other countries to take care of us; make our cars, pull back our military & let the UN lead...hey, soon we'll be getting foreign humanitarian aid to feel all those starving fat people in flyoverville...

Murica, fuck yeah!
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:39 PM   #22
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and voting Republican
I just wanted to point out that I'm surprised there's something we have such a strong disagreement about. I agree with you more than anyone except AMJ maybe, but this is a big one to me. You honestly believe in your heart that there is less evil in the Ds than the Rs huh?
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:41 PM   #23
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Who routinely cuts more education? Who?

You're right...they're all bad...but who's worse?

I know the answer in my state.

Talking about education here, right?

Mine isn't even a political statement...it's a statement of fact.
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:45 PM   #24
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Are the fattest/dumbest states red?

Facts.
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:47 PM   #25
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Who routinely cuts more education? Who?

You're right...they're all bad...but who's worse?

I know the answer in my state.

Talking about education here, right?

Mine isn't even a political statement...it's a statement of fact.
This is about the 3rd thread in as many days that you've been harping on education.

Why you so uppity lately?

Did you get your GED recently?
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:47 PM   #26
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Who routinely cuts more education? Who?

You're right...they're all bad...but who's worse?

I know the answer in my state.
Most politicians that I have seen speak in support of legalization lately are Republican. And certainly those who are doing it the loudest are Republican. What say ye to that sir?

BTW, I'm not coming from a pro-republican stance here, but you know that. The pro-pot politicians being Republicans is probably mostly coincidence....you have to be one or the other to be taken seriously anyway.

I also think the current education fiasco has less to do with money and more to do with what is actually being taught in the schools and the way certain interests are able to very successfully influence what goes into the textbooks. Sure, there are definitely schools, especially in poor areas, that have educational problems related to money....but by and large I think the money is there, though a lot of it is being stolen.

Dude, you're in NJ.....fire up your Netflix right now and watch "The Cartel." Try not to have a stroke while you watch it.
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Are the fattest/dumbest states red?

Facts.
That's a pretty good point. As a whole the dumbest fattest states are the most Republican. There is no denying that.

But I don't think that points to Dems as being the less evil, it just means their particular brand of propaganda appeals to more intelligent people. The end result (sociopathic rich dudes in power) is the same. The system is very good at making people think they have a choice to keep them from becoming restless and burning this motherfucker down.

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This is about the 3rd thread in as many days that you've been harping on education.

Why you so uppity lately?

Did you get your GED recently?
He probably had to stop at a Walmart for some reason and took in all its humanly horrors.
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Old 07-08-2011, 04:56 PM   #28
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This is about the 3rd thread in as many days that you've been harping on education.

Why you so uppity lately?

Did you get your GED recently?
Actually, as you may have heard me cry the blues before, my scholastic career was soundly bungled, IMHO. In 9th grade, I had a first year college reading level...but I assure you it was with no help from my school. They couldn't even figure out I was an accelerated learner, and actually had held me back a grade previously (I was one of those kids right on the line, that could have gone in a year earlier, and I did, only to have them decide to hold me back a couple years later).

I grew to completely resent educators, education, and everything to do with the system that had screwed me, and had learned how to educate myself, as they were boring the ever living fuck out of me. What they should have done was move me 2 years ahead.

I am, however, smart enough to realize that my personal bad experiences cannot overshadow the fact that education is clearly the key to a society that can compete globally.

We're losing ground to the rest of the planet...that's just a simple fact.

My personal grudge against the education system takes a back seat, even in my mind, because of this.

Yes, I can put my personal prejudices aside.

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Careful; AMJ's on a quest to modernize English today.

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He probably had to stop at a Walmart for some reason and took in all its humanly horrors.
These days all I have to do is go outside to see humanly horrors. They aren't staying just in Wal-Mart anymore.

Thankfully... not many make it to some of my preferred hang outs (like the Flying Saucer.. guess if there's no Bud Light, they're not interested ), but the thought of having to fight all the miscreants on the road is usually enough to just keep me on the couch at home with a book or my tablet.
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