Tools

[derf]

Originally Posted by tallywacker

I've dealt with junk tools and never again. I love craftsman. I don't know why you WOULDN'T like them.

This is a great statement. My junk tools are all crap, and dont last worth a damn.

Short craftman story: A few years ago I had a ratchet my FIL gave me that broke, it wouldnt ratchet any more. I brought it to sears and the guy told me that because of the age they couldnt replace it directly. After some complaining (actually just talking to the tools manager) because none of my sockets would fit correctly with the newer style they replaced the one broken ratchet with a newer style, and asked me to bring a list of all my sockets so they could replace them too. I got to keep all the older style sockets too, and was able to buy an old style ratchet.

I've also had a few very old screw drivers replaced with worn off heads, and broken handles, bent shafts and other damage, and some sockets that have blown apart from being used on an impact gun, a broken hammer, some worn out files, and a broken tourque wrench.

The list of my crap tools that I have broken goes on forever, amny of them from minor light use, the quality tools that I've broken have been misused and abused and are older than me. It's totally worth the $$$ for the good stuff. For the $$$ I've spent on crap tools, and replacing the broken crap tools I could have bought quality stuff and actually used stuff more than once.

That lifetime warranty really is top notch. Snap on does the same thing, and their tools are almost as good or just as good as craftsman. Kobalt tools are better quality but don't offer the lifetime warranty.

[tallywacker]

Originally Posted by derf

This is a great statement. My junk tools are all crap, and dont last worth a damn.

Short craftman story: A few years ago I had a ratchet my FIL gave me that broke, it wouldnt ratchet any more. I brought it to sears and the guy told me that because of the age they couldnt replace it directly. After some complaining (actually just talking to the tools manager) because none of my sockets would fit correctly with the newer style they replaced the one broken ratchet with a newer style, and asked me to bring a list of all my sockets so they could replace them too. I got to keep all the older style sockets too, and was able to buy an old style ratchet.

I've also had a few very old screw drivers replaced with worn off heads, and broken handles, bent shafts and other damage, and some sockets that have blown apart from being used on an impact gun, a broken hammer, some worn out files, and a broken tourque wrench.

The list of my crap tools that I have broken goes on forever, amny of them from minor light use, the quality tools that I've broken have been misused and abused and are older than me. It's totally worth the $$$ for the good stuff. For the $$$ I've spent on crap tools, and replacing the broken crap tools I could have bought quality stuff and actually used stuff more than once.

That lifetime warranty really is top notch. Snap on does the same thing, and their tools are almost as good or just as good as craftsman. Kobalt tools are better quality but don't offer the lifetime warranty.

Yeah the no questions asked lifetime warranty is money.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Rangerscott

I dont see why guys get all boner over Craftsman. The only come back I get is "life time warranty."

Hell. I rebuilt the engine I put in my vehicle with a HF torque wrench. Over 10k miles and still rolling along. LOL

Like you said, I like Craftsman because they are about the cheapest name brand tools with an easy to use lifetime warranty. I agree with you about some things though. I have Harbor Freight torque wrenches as well. I can get a set of three of them for the price of the Craftsman linked in this thread and have money left over.

About that torque wrench linked earlier, I would hardly get the chance to use it because the range is too low for me. The majority of times I'm using a torque wrench the value I need falls more in the range of this sucker.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...3&blockType=G3

[Rangerscott]

Ya'll sound like ya'll don't know how to use tools.

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by Rangerscott

Ya'll sound like ya'll don't know how to use tools.

I get this statement from someone that just doesn't use tools as much as I use tools...

I haven't broken a tool in a while. Not since only buying the good shit Break a torque wrench sometime, it sucks.

Oh, and you never break a tool at the end of a job; it's right in the middle of it, usually with some random fluid that will leak if you don't tighten/fix what you're doing. And, usually when the stores are closed.

[TommyHotWheel]

I shop pawns alot...on principle, I pick up any Snap-On, Dewalt or Mac tools that I come across. You would do well with an inexpensive mechanics tool set, torque wrench, tool box, compresssor and some air tools. All can be had by a good shopper for around $1,000 but that does not include specialty stuff. I bet I have as much in my specialty tools(specialty torque wrenches, star and torx sockets, impact stuff and specialty wrenches) as I do in my regular tool set.

[Rangerscott]

Originally Posted by TommyHotWheel

I shop pawns alot...on principle, I pick up any Snap-On, Dewalt or Mac tools that I come across. You would do well with an inexpensive mechanics tool set, torque wrench, tool box, compresssor and some air tools. All can be had by a good shopper for around $1,000 but that does not include specialty stuff. I bet I have as much in my specialty tools(specialty torque wrenches, star and torx sockets, impact stuff and specialty wrenches) as I do in my regular tool set.

Pawn shops suck ass now. They sell shit at full price and there's hardly any haggling. It's always, "I have to go by what the computer tells me." Fuck that, I'll just pay full price for a NEW item.

[caveman]

Originally Posted by Rangerscott

I dont see why guys get all boner over Craftsman. The only come back I get is "life time warranty."

Hell. I rebuilt the engine I put in my vehicle with a HF torque wrench. Over 10k miles and still rolling along. LOL

Yeah, I had a broken watch too. It was right twice a day

Originally Posted by Rangerscott

Their pricing. I've had my Stanley socket set for almost 8 years. I've used it on everything and it still looks brand new and works like day one. My GearWrench racheting wrenches are the shiz.

Not saying that there isn't any good tools out there other than Craftsman, but the warranty speaks for itself and is worth all the money you pay for the tool for.
I have had some cheap HF screw drivers. put in the first screw and the tip practically twisted right off.

Originally Posted by Rangerscott

Ya'll sound like ya'll don't know how to use tools.

and you sound like a hillbilly redneck

[TommyHotWheel]

Originally Posted by Rangerscott

Pawn shops suck ass now. They sell shit at full price and there's hardly any haggling. It's always, "I have to go by what the computer tells me." Fuck that, I'll just pay full price for a NEW item.

I skip the overpriced shops...last week picked up a Delta scroll saw brand new never assembled for $30 and a Ryobi 18v drill, 2 batteries and a charger for $29 and a dude walked out with a small box of snap on and craftsman sockets and wrenches for $40. Gotta shop right and look hard, plus the shops I go to have different "sales" on different days, friday is tool sale day, my favorite.

[Rangerscott]

Originally Posted by azoomm

I get this statement from someone that just doesn't use tools as much as I use tools...

I haven't broken a tool in a while. Not since only buying the good shit Break a torque wrench sometime, it sucks.

Oh, and you never break a tool at the end of a job; it's right in the middle of it, usually with some random fluid that will leak if you don't tighten/fix what you're doing. And, usually when the stores are closed.

I've been in the same boat, but it's usually because I don't have that "special" tool or a flat head screwdriver and duct tape aren't getting the job done.