06-12-2012, 02:22 PM | #31 |
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I'm sure the father would be proud to take jail time for what he did. Sometimes you just "gotta do what ya gotta do". Consequences be damned.
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06-12-2012, 03:17 PM | #32 |
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Not sure if it can be determined, but wht if the first blow was also the fatal blow? I am assuming thius guy died of bleeding into his brain and it could only take one shot to shear a blood vessel, esp if hes a little older.
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06-12-2012, 04:55 PM | #33 | |
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If he hit the guy once and the guy died, no charges. He was defending his daughter. If he hit the guy 200 times and the guy died, from shot one or shot 200, charged. He defended his daughter until the point she was out of danger then went beyond that. There's gray area that can be argued, but the article doesn't acknowledge the level in which the guy was beaten. |
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06-12-2012, 06:26 PM | #34 | |
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Look we're all going to say "I would have killed him too, fuck it" but that doesn't mean there aren't possible consequences. Life isn't fair sometimes, man up and get a lawyer, you will probably get off anyway, so who cares. |
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06-13-2012, 07:37 AM | #35 |
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Another point is: How do you know when to stop hitting? The object is to stop the threat. To me that means the threat is no longer able to defend itself or do anymore harm. To me that would mean unconscious. How would you know if someone's unconscious or dead. You might think you just knocked them out and then go to call the cops but, it turns out your last blow killed them. Lots of variables in this one.
Funny thing is if he had shot and killed the guy, I don't think anyone would question his actions but, since he was more personal it appears a different set of rules apply. |
06-13-2012, 11:23 AM | #36 |
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Dude is a murderer IMO
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06-13-2012, 02:09 PM | #37 |
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I'm curious, then, what you feel your response would have been in the same situation.
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06-13-2012, 02:10 PM | #38 |
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06-13-2012, 04:40 PM | #39 |
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Certainly, under the simplest definition of the word, anyone who directly kills someone else is a murderer. The question at hand, in this case, was whether or not it was a justifiable murder.
Kaneman's brief declaration was open to interpretation. But if he feels the murder in this case was unjustified, I'd be interested to know what response he would consider justified.
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06-13-2012, 06:07 PM | #40 |
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