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Old 12-22-2010, 09:39 AM   #31
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woops.. I knew i missed it somewhere, just couldn't find it.
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Old 12-22-2010, 09:40 AM   #32
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Shit brother. Glad you're alright.
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Old 12-22-2010, 09:40 AM   #33
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First off, SHit! how did i miss this thread... and DLIT, I am so sorry.

I am going to take a WAG (wild-assed guess) about the cause of the crash.

You said that in the transition from left to right the front end just "went away"; without more details it's just a guess, but bikes like the R1 (short wheelbase, little rake, short trail) can do a little "pogo" type thing where when you've popped from full lean to full lean side-to-side the suspension unweights for a second at the top of the transition.... a lot of it has to do with if you are trail braking or on throttle and in that photo, it appears that the direction of travel is slightly downhill which also contributes to the unweighting on the front.

Doesn't take much at racetrack speeds. Rushing even slightly downhill causes the vectors to change NOT in your favor.

Just guessing without more data. But I've lost the front in similar situations on bikes i was familiar with, on roads I "Knew".
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Old 12-22-2010, 09:41 AM   #34
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Old 12-22-2010, 10:16 AM   #35
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First off, SHit! how did i miss this thread... and DLIT, I am so sorry.

I am going to take a WAG (wild-assed guess) about the cause of the crash.

You said that in the transition from left to right the front end just "went away"; without more details it's just a guess, but bikes like the R1 (short wheelbase, little rake, short trail) can do a little "pogo" type thing where when you've popped from full lean to full lean side-to-side the suspension unweights for a second at the top of the transition.... a lot of it has to do with if you are trail braking or on throttle and in that photo, it appears that the direction of travel is slightly downhill which also contributes to the unweighting on the front.

Just guessing without more data. But I've lost the front in similar situations on bikes i was familiar with, on roads I "Knew".
Not a bad guess. I wasn't trail braking. I just use my lean to scrub speed off if need be. But you could be right. I still think I should've felt some feedback. I was already leaning right. Who knows. Important thing is I'm here still. I'll proly never ride street again. I don't have fun unless I'm hauling ass, but I can't risk getting that lucky again. My gear and a metric fuck ton of luck saved my ass.
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Old 12-22-2010, 10:25 AM   #36
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Wow. So relieved you're still with us. Shit, those pictures are incredible.

Heal quickly and completely...
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Old 12-22-2010, 10:39 AM   #37
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That is one hell of a story. Glad you are still here to tell it. I hope you heal quickly!
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Old 12-22-2010, 11:53 AM   #38
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damn...but hey u still here, so put yourself back together, hit the track. dainese was money well spent
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Old 12-22-2010, 12:43 PM   #39
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Just had a thought, you haven't mentioned it(or I missed it)...do you wear a seperate back protector or was it just the suit (whatever pad it has)? Wonder if a back protector would have helped or if it was from flipping (getting twisted) over the curb that got your back.
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Old 12-22-2010, 12:52 PM   #40
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I wear a Dainese back protector. You can see scuff marks from where it broke through the flexible leather by my lower back. It definitely helped while sliding, hard to say if it helped with the curb. I took the curb on my side. It also helped while I was tumbling down the hill on my back, too.
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