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Old 10-06-2009, 02:56 PM   #31
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The question that brings to mind is whether being a felon, who can't go to many places that he wants/needs to because of the industry that he's involved in, is to be considered a 'reward'?
As I think my question clearly stated his fugitive status isn't a reward, releasing him without his having to come back and face justice is. There is a difference.

I think shmike summed it up but I will put it a different way, does his decision to be a fugitive in order to avoid prison constitute punishment?
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Old 10-06-2009, 03:00 PM   #32
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As I think my question clearly stated his fugitive status isn't a reward, releasing him without his having to come back and face justice is. There is a difference.

I think shmike summed it up but I will put it a different way, does his decision to be a fugitive in order to avoid prison constitute punishment?
No, it doesn't. Now does his fugitive status warrant dragging someone who has managed to pull her life back together through shit that she took decades to put aside?
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Old 10-06-2009, 03:02 PM   #33
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No, it doesn't. Now does his fugitive status warrant dragging someone who has managed to pull her life back together through shit that she took decades to put aside?
He pleaded guilty, I don't see why she needs to be involved at all.

It's not like they need her testimony.
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The media is already involving her.
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Old 10-06-2009, 03:19 PM   #35
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No, it doesn't. Now does his fugitive status warrant dragging someone who has managed to pull her life back together through shit that she took decades to put aside?
"Should Polanski be rewarded for remaining a fugitive for so long?" is what I said. Releasing him without his having to return and face justice would be the reward. See the difference?

The media may be involving the victim, but she was giving interviews about what happened a few years ago as well. I don't like that the victims are involved in any prosecution, much less victims of sexual abuse. It still doesn't mean the criminal shouldn't face justice.
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Old 10-06-2009, 03:24 PM   #36
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No, it doesn't. Now does his fugitive status warrant dragging someone who has managed to pull her life back together through shit that she took decades to put aside?
Yes, IMO.

Society is supposed to pursue and punish the guilty....... if not, then it hurts society in general because it might cause other people to ignore laws in the future. I think that's more important than the emotional well-being of a woman who may or may not give a damn anyway.
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Old 10-06-2009, 03:25 PM   #37
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"Should Polanski be rewarded for remaining a fugitive for so long?" is what I said. Releasing him without his having to return and face justice would be the reward. See the difference?

The media may be involving the victim, but she was giving interviews about what happened a few years ago as well. I don't like that the victims are involved in any prosecution, much less victims of sexual abuse. It still doesn't mean the criminal shouldn't face justice.
Correction: It wouldn't be a punishment. That's significantly different from a reward.
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Correction: It wouldn't be a punishment. That's significantly different from a reward.
The removal of having to face punishment is a reward.
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He did the crime and should be punished but I think he should get a commemorative cup for remaining a fugitive for so long.
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