Plane flies into Bldg in Austin - Page 5

Dave · 02-18-2010, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

Why is his web host required to comply with the FBI's request?

you'd think he'd be smart enough to host oconus.

TYEster · 02-18-2010, 06:34 PM

I feel for the people who's work was disrupted as well as those who had to sit in the traffic jam this crap caused.

What I don't feel for are rich douchebags who try to take it out on the world when they have "irs troubles" and fly THEIR PERSONAL AIRCRAFT into a building. You should've bought yourself some Johnsons No more tears and a box of kleenex. There's worse problems in the world than your selfish ass.

Willie Nelson had some tax issues I believe, millions of dollars worth, he lit a joint and/or took a bong hit and fixed it.

anthonyk · 02-18-2010, 06:39 PM

Well, you don't have to be rich to own a plane, though it sure helps. A quick search turned up Piper Cherokees (like the one he flew) for as low as $25k.

But yeah, with a plane and a $250k house, something isn't adding up. Except the douchebag part. That's spot-on.

TYEster · 02-18-2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by anthonyk

Well, you don't have to be rich to own a plane, though it sure helps. A quick search turned up Piper Cherokees (like the one he flew) for as low as $25k.

But yeah, with a plane and a $250k house, something isn't adding up. Except the douchebag part. That's spot-on.

You're missing the point.......

He has a fucking plane! The biggest non-necessity next to a boat.

Kaneman · 02-18-2010, 06:48 PM

I'm very glad no one died in the building. However parts of his letter echo the way I've personally felt out powers that be for many years. Not the "woe is me" parts necessarily, although I would expect a non-insane person's suicide note to include a pouring of emotional content.

It is disappointing to see the knee-jerk reaction that he was an anti-government nut. People forget so fast the types of things that sometimes need to take place to ensure continuing or renewed freedom. Now, are this guy's actions going to lead to some kind of governmental reform? No, of course not, and I gather from the letter he is well aware of that as well as it was not his intended goal. In fact it will probably only lead to more regulations for private pilots.

Governmental oversight and manipulation is apparent in the removal of the guy's website, and the media reporting that is labeling his note as "rambling" and a "rant" and so on and so forth. Let us read the letter and decide for ourselves, I don't need "The View" to break it down for me.

I'm not attempting to label him as a hero, as innocent people should never be put at risk of injury or death, and clearly he wanted people to die with him.

anthonyk · 02-18-2010, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TYEster

You're missing the point.......

He has a fucking plane! The biggest non-necessity next to a boat.

It seemed pretty necessary to his plan. Maybe he got it special.

Dave · 02-18-2010, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TYEster

You're missing the point.......

He has a fucking plane! The biggest non-necessity next to a boat.

a airplane is a fantastic investment. i considered buying a cherokee 180 before i bought the house but decided id rather not rent or live with the rents

Captain Morgan · 02-18-2010, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

with references to how great anarchy and communism are? Use your loaf. Hey joe, congrats. You're dead. You still owe taxes

My guess is he still owed taxes and the IRS was going to seize property, hence, the burning of the house and the crashing of the plane. If someone dies owing taxes, and they didn't have an estate remaining to pay the taxes, then the debt is written off. However, if they left any assets behind, those assets would be used to pay the tax debt. However, if he had insurance on said assets, then the debt might be collected through his insurance. But that would probably make this guy pretty happy knowing that a big corporation had to pay his debt.

smileyman · 02-18-2010, 07:01 PM

Somewhere in the middle east some hadji is laughing and saying 'amatuer'!

Homeslice · 02-18-2010, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by azoomm

Because they don't want everything in their own office and lives turned upside down by Big Brother only to protect someone they aren't directly related to or care about.

In what way would their offices be turned upside down? All they do is host a website, the contents of which can easily be accessed.........There is no need for the FBI to search their office. OK, maybe they would request historical archives of his page, assuming they exist......but as far as I know they are not obligated to comply.

02-18-2010, 06:48 PM	#45
Kaneman AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Odessa, TX Moto: 2000 Honda CBR1100XX Blackbird Posts: 4,931	I'm very glad no one died in the building. However parts of his letter echo the way I've personally felt out powers that be for many years. Not the "woe is me" parts necessarily, although I would expect a non-insane person's suicide note to include a pouring of emotional content. It is disappointing to see the knee-jerk reaction that he was an anti-government nut. People forget so fast the types of things that sometimes need to take place to ensure continuing or renewed freedom. Now, are this guy's actions going to lead to some kind of governmental reform? No, of course not, and I gather from the letter he is well aware of that as well as it was not his intended goal. In fact it will probably only lead to more regulations for private pilots. Governmental oversight and manipulation is apparent in the removal of the guy's website, and the media reporting that is labeling his note as "rambling" and a "rant" and so on and so forth. Let us read the letter and decide for ourselves, I don't need "The View" to break it down for me. I'm not attempting to label him as a hero, as innocent people should never be put at risk of injury or death, and clearly he wanted people to die with him. __________________ 1982 Honda XR80 - blown motor, 1993 Kawasaki ZX6D - sold, 2001 Suzuki Bandit 1200S - sold, 1984 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Kawasaki ZRX1200R - blown motor, 2007 Suzuki DL1000 V-Strom - totalled, 2003 Yamaha FZ1 - sold, 1994 Honda Magna - sold, 2001 Honda CBR600F4i - sold, 1998 Suzuki DR350 - stolen, 1989 Honda Super Magna - sold, 2007 Yamaha Stratoliner, 2000 Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird

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02-18-2010, 06:34 PM	#42
TYEster With MORE TYEstosterone Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: TX Moto: '12 KX450F / 08 YZ250F #512 / 07 KX65 #1 Posts: 1,429	I feel for the people who's work was disrupted as well as those who had to sit in the traffic jam this crap caused. What I don't feel for are rich douchebags who try to take it out on the world when they have "irs troubles" and fly THEIR PERSONAL AIRCRAFT into a building. You should've bought yourself some Johnsons No more tears and a box of kleenex. There's worse problems in the world than your selfish ass. Willie Nelson had some tax issues I believe, millions of dollars worth, he lit a joint and/or took a bong hit and fixed it.

02-18-2010, 06:39 PM	#43
anthonyk WERA White Plate Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Austin, TX Moto: '01 Aprilia Falco Posts: 1,041	Well, you don't have to be rich to own a plane, though it sure helps. A quick search turned up Piper Cherokees (like the one he flew) for as low as $25k. But yeah, with a plane and a $250k house, something isn't adding up. Except the douchebag part. That's spot-on.