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[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Trip

The CDMA/LTE on the same chip turned out to be a bust because they didn't design the antennas right again. They killed one of the best features of Verizon going LTE. It's the only LTE phone EVAR on Verizon not capable of doing voice and data at the same time on the Verizon network. Even the first phone, the Thunderbolt, could accomplish this feat. I don't know if Sprint had any LTE phones not capable of doing voice and data, but it can't do it there either.

My understanding is that you can't talk & tether at the same time on CDMA phones, but you can on GSM phones, right?

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

My understanding is that you can't talk & tether at the same time on CDMA phones, but you can on GSM phones, right?

This only applies to 3G, well except in Apple's situation it's different.

In 3G GSM, you can talk and use data(tether) at the same time.

In 3G CDMA, you can't talk and use data at the same time.

4G, GSM is LTE. Nothing changes for GSM.

Verizon and Sprint both have been going GSM for their 4G. But they are both still using CDMA for voice calls.

Android phones and Windows phones on Verizon and Sprint have seperate radios for CDMA and LTE. So while you are using the CDMA radio for voice, the LTE radio can do data if you are in a LTE area.

iPhone 5 has both it's CDMA and LTE radio on one chip. The way they designed that phone, they didn't make it so the LTE and CDMA could work at the same time to save on design costs so it's very similar to the AT&T iPhone 5. All they would have had to do was put one more antenna on the phone and voice/data would of worked at the same time.

[Homeslice]

Wow, shitty for ifon5.
What about an ifon4, you could do it on AT&T and TMo, right?

[Homeslice]

Just to verify, the ifon5 can't do it on anyone's network?

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Wow, shitty for ifon5.
What about an ifon4, you could do it on AT&T and TMo, right?

The iPhone 4 can do it on AT&T for sure. I am not sure about tmobile. I am not sure if any of the iphones are supported on their HSPA or HSPA+ networks. What they call their 3G and 4G that is really 3.5G.

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Just to verify, the ifon5 can't do it on anyone's network?

no, iPhone 5 can do voice/data on any GSM network including AT&T. Just can't do it on Verizon/Sprint/any other CDMA voice network.

Not sure about Tmo, people use to be using just 2G GSM to be able to use the iphone on tmobile, not sure how it works now.

[Homeslice]

So neither the 4 or 5 can do it on Verizon. Huh, I was this close to signing up with them.

Maybe that's why Verizon doesn't charge extra for tethering anymore. They know it's a flawed feature.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

So neither the 4 or 5 can do it on Verizon. Huh, I was this close to signing up with them.

Maybe that's why Verizon doesn't charge extra for tethering anymore. They know it's a flawed feature.

Verizon doesn't charge for tethering on non unlimited plans because the FCC told them that was illegal. Lol

They still charge for unlimited.

Looks like tmobile people can buy the Verizon iPhone and use it with the HSPA+ network. That may be an awesome alternative for people that don't mind paying full price for a phone.

[Porkchop]

Originally Posted by Trip

Verizon doesn't charge for tethering on non unlimited plans because the FCC told them that was illegal. Lol

They still charge for unlimited.

Looks like tmobile people can buy the Verizon iPhone and use it with the HSPA+ network. That may be an awesome alternative for people that don't mind paying full price for a phone.

Thats why you use FoxFi on unlimited plans....

I thought I heard TMo was going to roll out a true 4G soon?

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Trip

Android phones and Windows phones on Verizon and Sprint have seperate radios for CDMA and LTE. So while you are using the CDMA radio for voice, the LTE radio can do data if you are in a LTE area.

Buddy of mine says he can't do it on his Verizon Incredible. Same with a guy who has an S2 on sprint wimax.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Buddy of mine says he can't do it on his Verizon Incredible. Same with a guy who has an S2 on sprint wimax.

Is his incredible an LTE phone or the original non LTE one? My nexus does it just fine. You also have to be in an LTE area for it to work.

WiMAX is different, it's CDMA 4G